Which first, PCIII and Pipes or PCIII and Thunder Air Kit?

Boss Hawg · 05-22-2005

O.K., I am finally getting of the fence. I know I am buying the PCIII, Vance and Hines Big Shots, and the Thunder Air kit. But I want to ease the blow the the wallet and wife, so which should I get first, Pipes or Air Kit along with the PCIII.

I found the following on the internet:

PCIII USB for 279.95 w/free shipping

Thunder Smooth Round Air Kit for 209.95 w/free shipping

V and H Big Shots for 469.95 w/ free shipping

All found at Phatperformanceparts.com. If you know of any cheaper let me know!!

Looking forward to the response, its burning a hole in my pocket!!!!!

By the way I just added River Road XL Plain Bags, Cobra Saddle Bag Supports, Mustang Plian Tank Bib, and Mustang Plain Fender Bib. Its coming around surely but slowly.

BH.

T-man · 05-22-2005

Heck, do em all!!

Depends on what you want first:

Performance or sound? You will get a little bounce with the pipes anyway; I'd do pipes and PCIII first.

Falconrider · 05-22-2005

Agreed!

Lee_2061 · 05-22-2005

Yea, I'd suggest, pipes, airkit, PCIII.
If u fit anything after the PCIII, you will need to re-program, so the PCIII should go last.
You will get better sound straight away with the pipes.
Add the airkit as well without the PCIII and you will start getting some interesting sounds. Ones you don't wanna hear.

Why not buy them as your budget dictates and then fit them all at once? Each will not really give you the full benefit without the other.

vaporgas2000 · 05-22-2005

you do not need the pcIII with just pipes, but you will need it for the air kit. hope this helps.

Phatboy · 05-23-2005

With the stock pipes adding the PCIII and the intake will add torque and make your stockers sound deeper. If you have a laptop then this would be my suggestion.

If not then just get pipes.

Phatboy · 05-23-2005

Did I mention I'm fickle =P

My final anwer:
Caddman intake http://www.gadgetjq.com/caddmankit.htm
Look at the bottom of the page where Gadget just removed his side cover and replaced it with a $14 filter. Not as cool as the Thunder but it'll get er done for now and performance should be about the same.

Then you can afford pipes and PCIII

Are you going to use one of dynojet's maps or have it tuned??

Ken · 05-23-2005

1. Pipes
2. Air Kit
3. PC III

tcobar · 05-23-2005

I agree, Pipes, then air kit, then PCIII. However, I would do the air kit and the PCIII at the same time. Also, give these guys a call.

http://www.rongreenesportscenter.com/

Ask for Paul and he can quote you over the phone. This is where I got the best prices after looking all over the internet. I got better prices than what you have already been quoted. Hope this helps.

brady666 · 05-23-2005

Like a band-aid, one quick swipe. It hurts for a moment and then it's all over; much better than the slooooooooow peel....just rip open the wallet and let the cash fly!

tdaugharty · 05-23-2005

To quote a line from a kids movie. "What did angie say?" .... "Spend it all!"

Jack Dotson · 05-25-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss Hawg

O.K., I am finally getting of the fence. I know I am buying the PCIII, Vance and Hines Big Shots, and the Thunder Air kit. But I want to ease the blow the the wallet and wife, so which should I get first, Pipes or Air Kit along with the PCIII.

I found the following on the internet:

PCIII USB for 279.95 w/free shipping

Thunder Smooth Round Air Kit for 209.95 w/free shipping

V and H Big Shots for 469.95 w/ free shipping

All found at Phatperformanceparts.com. If you know of any cheaper let me know!!

Looking forward to the response, its burning a hole in my pocket!!!!!

By the way I just added River Road XL Plain Bags, Cobra Saddle Bag Supports, Mustang Plian Tank Bib, and Mustang Plain Fender Bib. Its coming around surely but slowly.

BH.

I'd make sure I got the Pipes and then worry and then get the air kit and PC-III at the same time. I have the V&H bigshots, Thunder S&S verticle air and techlusion TFI, but I too want to get the PC-III. You find a good map for the PC-III? I would eventually like to get a custom map, but if I could find a good map I could get the PC-III now and have the bike dyno'd down the road. I've also been looking hard for some bags and had all but decided to go with the River Roads, but I was told by some the XL's were just too big. How do you like yours and would you happen to have some pictures? Thanks.

*trikebubble* · 05-25-2005

I got the pipes first.
Then the PCIII and Thunder Tornado at the same time.
I also got my hands on a map from a member here. That is one of the great things about the PCIII, the ability to swap and try different maps effortlessly.
It also makes sense from a time standpoint to install the PCIII and airkit at the same time. They both require moving around some of the same parts on the bike.

Boss Hawg · 05-25-2005

Will getting the pipes first with no PC damage the pipes due to the lean running, or make them blue premature. Will there be excessive backfire?

My budget will probablly only let me get pipes for now.

BH

Boss Hawg · 05-25-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Dotson

I'd make sure I got the Pipes and then worry and then get the air kit and PC-III at the same time. I have the V&H bigshots, Thunder S&S verticle air and techlusion TFI, but I too want to get the PC-III. You find a good map for the PC-III? I would eventually like to get a custom map, but if I could find a good map I could get the PC-III now and have the bike dyno'd down the road. I've also been looking hard for some bags and had all but decided to go with the River Roads, but I was told by some the XL's were just too big. How do you like yours and would you happen to have some pictures? Thanks.

There are maps on the PCIII web sight. Just pick and choose. As for a Dyno numbers will will have to poll the forum.

BH

*trikebubble* · 05-25-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss Hawg

Will getting the pipes first with no PC damage the pipes due to the lean running, or make them blue premature. Will there be excessive backfire?

My budget will probablly only let me get pipes for now.

BH

it shouldn't harm your bike to put pipes on first. I was informed that if your bike is FI it will adjust slightly to make up for the leaner condition.
And all pipes will blue somewhat anyways. That is what the heat shields are for, to hide the blueing.
I had a bit of a backfire issue. Marbling the reed valve inlet will eliminate that popping on deceleration.

http://www.gadgetjq.com/smogstuffremove.htm

Phatboy · 05-26-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss Hawg

Will getting the pipes first with no PC damage the pipes due to the lean running, or make them blue premature. Will there be excessive backfire?

My budget will probablly only let me get pipes for now.

BH

Then get the pipes and do the marbel trick. Should be fine.

05-22-2005	#1 (permalink)
Boss Hawg Foil Inspector BTK Beginner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Warrenton, VA. Posts: 116	Which first, PCIII and Pipes or PCIII and Thunder Air Kit? O.K., I am finally getting of the fence. I know I am buying the PCIII, Vance and Hines Big Shots, and the Thunder Air kit. But I want to ease the blow the the wallet and wife, so which should I get first, Pipes or Air Kit along with the PCIII. I found the following on the internet: PCIII USB for 279.95 w/free shipping Thunder Smooth Round Air Kit for 209.95 w/free shipping V and H Big Shots for 469.95 w/ free shipping All found at Phatperformanceparts.com. If you know of any cheaper let me know!! Looking forward to the response, its burning a hole in my pocket!!!!! By the way I just added River Road XL Plain Bags, Cobra Saddle Bag Supports, Mustang Plian Tank Bib, and Mustang Plain Fender Bib. Its coming around surely but slowly. BH. __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher if your stupid!" by John Wayne in the Sands of Iwo Jima 2004 Vulcan 1600 Classic - White

05-22-2005	#2 (permalink)
T-man Deerslayer & BTK Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 1,266	Heck, do em all!! Depends on what you want first: Performance or sound? You will get a little bounce with the pipes anyway; I'd do pipes and PCIII first. __________________ T-man VROC #12333 2005 V2K Ltd 2001 1500 Classic FI http://www.geocities.com/tensman_99/mcpics.html

05-22-2005	#4 (permalink)
Lee_2061 V2K Blingaphile BTK Expert Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,791	Yea, I'd suggest, pipes, airkit, PCIII. If u fit anything after the PCIII, you will need to re-program, so the PCIII should go last. You will get better sound straight away with the pipes. Add the airkit as well without the PCIII and you will start getting some interesting sounds. Ones you don't wanna hear. Why not buy them as your budget dictates and then fit them all at once? Each will not really give you the full benefit without the other. __________________ VROC17211 ROG189 UMC38326 V2KBUM#3 www.cruisercustomizing.com/lee_2061 www.flipdrive.com/silkfire

05-22-2005	#5 (permalink)
vaporgas2000 Refrigerator Magnet Test Engineer BTK Expert Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: cape girardeau, mo. Posts: 487	you do not need the pcIII with just pipes, but you will need it for the air kit. hope this helps. __________________ 2002 meanstreak modified '74 and '75 honda cb750

05-23-2005	#6 (permalink)
Phatboy Rides a lazyboy on wheels BTK Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,564	With the stock pipes adding the PCIII and the intake will add torque and make your stockers sound deeper. If you have a laptop then this would be my suggestion. If not then just get pipes. __________________ Phatboy 04 1600 Classic Black 02 Dodge Cummins

05-22-2005	#3 (permalink)
Falconrider Still On The Kickstand BTK Beginner Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 47	Agreed!

05-23-2005	#7 (permalink)
Phatboy Rides a lazyboy on wheels BTK Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,564	Did I mention I'm fickle =P My final anwer: Caddman intake http://www.gadgetjq.com/caddmankit.htm Look at the bottom of the page where Gadget just removed his side cover and replaced it with a $14 filter. Not as cool as the Thunder but it'll get er done for now and performance should be about the same. Then you can afford pipes and PCIII Are you going to use one of dynojet's maps or have it tuned?? __________________ Phatboy 04 1600 Classic Black 02 Dodge Cummins

05-23-2005	#8 (permalink)
Ken Forensic Bug Splatter Analyst BTK Expert Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,545	1. Pipes 2. Air Kit 3. PC III __________________ Ken Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul.

05-23-2005	#9 (permalink)
tcobar Can't find time to ride BTK Expert Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 532	I agree, Pipes, then air kit, then PCIII. However, I would do the air kit and the PCIII at the same time. Also, give these guys a call. http://www.rongreenesportscenter.com/ Ask for Paul and he can quote you over the phone. This is where I got the best prices after looking all over the internet. I got better prices than what you have already been quoted. Hope this helps.

05-23-2005	#10 (permalink)
brady666 Into Glory Ride BTK Beginner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: York, PA Posts: 50	Like a band-aid, one quick swipe. It hurts for a moment and then it's all over; much better than the slooooooooow peel....just rip open the wallet and let the cash fly!

05-23-2005	#11 (permalink)
tdaugharty Sit speling cheker BTK Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 427	To quote a line from a kids movie. "What did angie say?" .... "Spend it all!" __________________ Thomas Daugharty Atlanta, GA - http://www.daugharty.com ------------------------------------------------- Seen on a motorcycle’s rearviews: “Warning: objects seen in mirror are disappearing rapidly” Quote: "Knowledge produces more knowledge, ignorance often generates overconfidence!!"

05-25-2005	#13 (permalink)
trikebubble Slow Guy on a Fast Bike Extreme Forum Supporter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Okanagan Falls, BC Posts: 22,636	I got the pipes first. Then the PCIII and Thunder Tornado at the same time. I also got my hands on a map from a member here. That is one of the great things about the PCIII, the ability to swap and try different maps effortlessly. It also makes sense from a time standpoint to install the PCIII and airkit at the same time. They both require moving around some of the same parts on the bike. __________________ 08 Midnite Sapphire Blue ZX-14

05-25-2005	#14 (permalink)
Boss Hawg Foil Inspector BTK Beginner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Warrenton, VA. Posts: 116	Will getting the pipes first with no PC damage the pipes due to the lean running, or make them blue premature. Will there be excessive backfire? My budget will probablly only let me get pipes for now. BH __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher if your stupid!" by John Wayne in the Sands of Iwo Jima 2004 Vulcan 1600 Classic - White

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