I need a low mileage used engine or help form an honest dealer. I've been done wrong.

Lordc55 · 06-08-2005

I have a cherry vn740 withe 7k miles and a single cylendar is stuck. It's a 94 TEAL beauty. I don't want another bike.
Problem is, dealer service manager clearly doesn't want to work on it.
I brought it in to clear up some valve noise heard while idling last summer, and asked why it was using oil. He said the engine wasn't even broke in yet. He said drive the "urine" out if it and bring it back in the fall. 400 miles later, no more oil usage. Hurray. 150 miles later the engine stopped. Left rear spark plug was toasted and almost no oil left.
The next morning the bike started normally and ran at idle for 6 seconds.
Then the cylender seized.
The dealer says 1400 just to look at it and no guarentee it won't cost 4k plus.
Service manager says, Buy a "new bike". I say no. He says buy a new engine then. He says it will cost nearly the cost of a "new bike". Then his vulcan expert said it will cost 4k for the brand new motor from Kawasaki and 2k to install. THEY sent me to Parts who said KAWASAKI doesn't even sell new vn750 engines. There ought to be some censureship for a dealer who won't perform maintenance you need when your next in line. This is a multibrand dealer and the vn750 expert is also the Honda Goldwing Expert. It's not economical for them to help ME unless it's snowing............ Recommend me an honest dealer who wants to see happy customers with bikes on the road, in the summer time, and at reasonable prices. Shoot, the cylendar's are sleeved. New Parts will cost $200 per cylendar. Thanks, from SW Missouri

I think it's the cylendar because the starter wont turn the engine over at all though it really tries AND when in first gear and the engine off you cant roll it more than 6 inches in either direction. With the plugs out and Mystery oil shot in the plug holes, you can hear the sucking sound made by moving pistons, or piston, but they or it moves move only just a bit. The movement is enough so the mystery oil shoots out the front cylender spark plug sockets when I try to roll the bike, but not the back.

bluestringer · 06-08-2005

You started it up with almost no oil in it??? Search for a used motorcycle parts supplier and pick up a used engine or look for one on ebay.

Lordc55 · 06-08-2005

Yes it was dumb. It was early ans I was just sick. I thought the oil probllem was solved and that the problem was due ti the reinstoem and moisture in the carbs. Ebay has nothing. There are no mentions of engiones available anywhere. One Junk dealer with 1k bikes in his yard has had only ONE vn750, ever. It was a 1993 thet was junked because the cams were damaged last year. He and the owner looked for months with no luck, using all available resources. It's funny, but he thinks the VN 750 is is not a very popular bike......... I wonder where they all go?

Lordc55 · 06-08-2005

I have been looking since last summer, E-bay, Junk yards, Internet. It's "just wrong".

TBVulcan · 06-08-2005

Check out "Road Track and Trail" in Wisconsin. Go to www.CycleTrader.com and do a dealer search. This place has hundreds and hundreds of used bikes. They always have a handful of VN750's in stock it seems...the motor are the same regardless of the year I believe. When I was searching for used bikes, they always had low mileage VN750's for pretty good prices. If you want to keep your bike so desperately, buy a complete used one for around $2k and swap motors and you'll still have a clean parts bike on hand for any other needs that might pop up. Probably about your only choice unless you get very lucky. Either way, it's going to cost you money so you'd better be really commited to that bike. For under $6k, you can get a new VN750...your gonna probably spend $3k on this current bike and you'll never recoupe any of it, nor can you guarantee success, even after spending the money. You've already missed a lot of riding time, how much is it all worth?

And even an honest dealer can't guarantee it will be a cheap fix until they open her up first.

**Spok** · 06-08-2005

You can try and retry www.bent-bike.com

they are a local bike wrecking and salvage yard. I just checked their inventory of listed motors but give them a call. Keep checking back. Search the net for motorcycle salvage stuff like that

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=motorcycle+salvage

here is a google search

Sledder · 06-08-2005

I would pull it down and have a quick look. Possibly dropped a valve or stuck rocker or something. I am not familiar with that engine,but would pull at least the heads off ,so you can see what you need. If you are not mechanically inclined at all,find a general do it all type of back yard shop that will help you see whats the problem ,..without costing a ton to at least find out. You may only need to order 300 $ worth of parts?

**2WheelFun** · 06-08-2005

If you have a college nearby that has a machine shop you might be able to see if they will do your engine as a project and pay for parts. Just a thought.

pms07 · 06-09-2005

Find a used engine if it's needed and there should be plenty available across the US. Tear it down (get someone to assist if you need help...maybe find a shade tree MC guy...) and find the problem first though. It might not need a "new motor". BTW, Kawasaki does not (generally) sell new motors...they sell parts=expensive. Also, low/no oil=bad. You might follow the trouble shooting advice in your MOM if you've got one...

Rule 1. Dealers are expensive.

xepathfinder · 06-09-2005

The Vulcan 750 normally lasts forever, that is why you don't see many at salvage yards. Plus it seems the 800A and 800B are more popular. Does it really cost 2-3000 thousand to rebuild a motor? Wow, on a 11 year old bike it might be worth it to look for a good used one.

TBVulcan · 06-09-2005

At this point you got nothing to lose but riding time....get a good shop manual and tear the thing apart!! I'd go nuts walking by it in the garage....I'd either have to take a sledge hammer to it or a wrench, and the wrench is probably the better idea!

Bert · 06-09-2005

Have you looked at www.bikebandit.com ? They also have schematics of all the parts online this way you could use it as an example as you pull it apart They also have cylinders etc. Check it out

kamafool · 06-25-2005

Had a similar problem with my wife's vulcan 750. Found an engine at Steve's Cycle Salvage in Tifton. GA. 2000 miles on engine with exchange. $1000.00.

http://www.stevescyclesalvage.com/

ask for Alex he was very helpful.

jnk · 06-25-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by whistle clean

If you have a college nearby that has a machine shop you might be able to see if they will do your engine as a project and pay for parts. Just a thought.

also if there is a vocational technical school they will very often do such projects kansas has alot of them that are state funded i don't know about other states

*jukief* · 06-25-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnk

also if there is a vocational technical school they will very often do such projects kansas has alot of them that are state funded i don't know about other states

They have them here, too. Very good suggestions, Cary and John.

kevinbrx · 06-25-2005

I would just buy a used 750 and part your bike out on ebay. You might even break even.

billc5 · 06-27-2005

I agree with theo others. YOU could probably get a good deal on a used 2002 or 3000.
That quote seems awfully high. The voteceh schools are a great idea also. Good Luck!

eglass64 · 06-27-2005

Try calling Herb's Inc In Antioch Illinois 847-395-5300, Tell him you got the number from Eddie garcia

06-08-2005	#1 (permalink)
Lordc55 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7	I need a low mileage used engine or help form an honest dealer. I've been done wrong. I have a cherry vn740 withe 7k miles and a single cylendar is stuck. It's a 94 TEAL beauty. I don't want another bike. Problem is, dealer service manager clearly doesn't want to work on it. I brought it in to clear up some valve noise heard while idling last summer, and asked why it was using oil. He said the engine wasn't even broke in yet. He said drive the "urine" out if it and bring it back in the fall. 400 miles later, no more oil usage. Hurray. 150 miles later the engine stopped. Left rear spark plug was toasted and almost no oil left. The next morning the bike started normally and ran at idle for 6 seconds. Then the cylender seized. The dealer says 1400 just to look at it and no guarentee it won't cost 4k plus. Service manager says, Buy a "new bike". I say no. He says buy a new engine then. He says it will cost nearly the cost of a "new bike". Then his vulcan expert said it will cost 4k for the brand new motor from Kawasaki and 2k to install. THEY sent me to Parts who said KAWASAKI doesn't even sell new vn750 engines. There ought to be some censureship for a dealer who won't perform maintenance you need when your next in line. This is a multibrand dealer and the vn750 expert is also the Honda Goldwing Expert. It's not economical for them to help ME unless it's snowing............ Recommend me an honest dealer who wants to see happy customers with bikes on the road, in the summer time, and at reasonable prices. Shoot, the cylendar's are sleeved. New Parts will cost $200 per cylendar. Thanks, from SW Missouri I think it's the cylendar because the starter wont turn the engine over at all though it really tries AND when in first gear and the engine off you cant roll it more than 6 inches in either direction. With the plugs out and Mystery oil shot in the plug holes, you can hear the sucking sound made by moving pistons, or piston, but they or it moves move only just a bit. The movement is enough so the mystery oil shoots out the front cylender spark plug sockets when I try to roll the bike, but not the back. Last edited by Lordc55 : 06-08-2005 at 06:28 PM. Reason: additional info

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bluestringer Rebel Rider BTK Expert Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Albany, Georgia Posts: 3,007	You started it up with almost no oil in it??? Search for a used motorcycle parts supplier and pick up a used engine or look for one on ebay. __________________ ..... bluestringer 2005 Vulcan 1500 Classic FI V&H Longshots VROC #13910 GAVROC #159

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TBVulcan Cruising In Fourth Gear BTK Intermediate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S.W. Michigan Posts: 211	Check out "Road Track and Trail" in Wisconsin. Go to www.CycleTrader.com and do a dealer search. This place has hundreds and hundreds of used bikes. They always have a handful of VN750's in stock it seems...the motor are the same regardless of the year I believe. When I was searching for used bikes, they always had low mileage VN750's for pretty good prices. If you want to keep your bike so desperately, buy a complete used one for around $2k and swap motors and you'll still have a clean parts bike on hand for any other needs that might pop up. Probably about your only choice unless you get very lucky. Either way, it's going to cost you money so you'd better be really commited to that bike. For under $6k, you can get a new VN750...your gonna probably spend $3k on this current bike and you'll never recoupe any of it, nor can you guarantee success, even after spending the money. You've already missed a lot of riding time, how much is it all worth? And even an honest dealer can't guarantee it will be a cheap fix until they open her up first. __________________ 05 Brute Force 650 Warn 2.5 Winch Warn plow Moose racing receiver hitch

06-08-2005	#6 (permalink)
Spok RIP Deron - 1400Pilot Extreme Forum Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mount Vernon, Washington Posts: 34,585	You can try and retry www.bent-bike.com they are a local bike wrecking and salvage yard. I just checked their inventory of listed motors but give them a call. Keep checking back. Search the net for motorcycle salvage stuff like that http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=motorcycle+salvage here is a google search __________________ In Memory of Deron Harden - 1400 Pilot. You are missed. Last edited by Spok : 06-08-2005 at 08:02 PM.

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Sledder Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NS Canada Posts: 1,223	I would pull it down and have a quick look. Possibly dropped a valve or stuck rocker or something. I am not familiar with that engine,but would pull at least the heads off ,so you can see what you need. If you are not mechanically inclined at all,find a general do it all type of back yard shop that will help you see whats the problem ,..without costing a ton to at least find out. You may only need to order 300 $ worth of parts? __________________ 04 MS 1640 Thunder 100 in kit/cams Race ported heads by "dynoray" Thunder air V&H Propipe PC3

06-08-2005	#3 (permalink)
Lordc55 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7	Yes it was dumb. It was early ans I was just sick. I thought the oil probllem was solved and that the problem was due ti the reinstoem and moisture in the carbs. Ebay has nothing. There are no mentions of engiones available anywhere. One Junk dealer with 1k bikes in his yard has had only ONE vn750, ever. It was a 1993 thet was junked because the cams were damaged last year. He and the owner looked for months with no luck, using all available resources. It's funny, but he thinks the VN 750 is is not a very popular bike......... I wonder where they all go?

06-08-2005	#4 (permalink)
Lordc55 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7	I have been looking since last summer, E-bay, Junk yards, Internet. It's "just wrong".

06-08-2005	#8 (permalink)
2WheelFun the "fun old" guy Extreme Forum Supporter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Albion, Washington "Pacific Northwest" Posts: 30,384	If you have a college nearby that has a machine shop you might be able to see if they will do your engine as a project and pay for parts. Just a thought. __________________ *KING KAHUNA* *2007 V2K LT* ****PICS** 2007 Brute Force 650i **PICS** I love the smell of SeaFoam in the morning**

06-09-2005	#9 (permalink)
pms07 Finally Got Into First Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 69	Find a used engine if it's needed and there should be plenty available across the US. Tear it down (get someone to assist if you need help...maybe find a shade tree MC guy...) and find the problem first though. It might not need a "new motor". BTW, Kawasaki does not (generally) sell new motors...they sell parts=expensive. Also, low/no oil=bad. You might follow the trouble shooting advice in your MOM if you've got one... Rule 1. Dealers are expensive.

06-09-2005	#10 (permalink)
xepathfinder Top Gear Full Throttle BTK Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 308	The Vulcan 750 normally lasts forever, that is why you don't see many at salvage yards. Plus it seems the 800A and 800B are more popular. Does it really cost 2-3000 thousand to rebuild a motor? Wow, on a 11 year old bike it might be worth it to look for a good used one. __________________ 2004 800 Vulcan Classic Cobra backrest Cobra floorboards Mustang Daytripper seat

06-09-2005	#11 (permalink)
TBVulcan Cruising In Fourth Gear BTK Intermediate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S.W. Michigan Posts: 211	At this point you got nothing to lose but riding time....get a good shop manual and tear the thing apart!! I'd go nuts walking by it in the garage....I'd either have to take a sledge hammer to it or a wrench, and the wrench is probably the better idea! __________________ 05 Brute Force 650 Warn 2.5 Winch Warn plow Moose racing receiver hitch

06-09-2005	#12 (permalink)
Bert Finally Got Into First Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sechelt, B.C. Posts: 61	Have you looked at www.bikebandit.com ? They also have schematics of all the parts online this way you could use it as an example as you pull it apart They also have cylinders etc. Check it out __________________ '96 1500 classic, hard chrome pipes, mustang seat, Ness big sucker, whatever else I can add

06-25-2005	#13 (permalink)
kamafool Old Enough to Ride Slower BTK Beginner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northeast Georgia Posts: 55	Engine seizure Had a similar problem with my wife's vulcan 750. Found an engine at Steve's Cycle Salvage in Tifton. GA. 2000 miles on engine with exchange. $1000.00. http://www.stevescyclesalvage.com/ ask for Alex he was very helpful. __________________ 2004 Vulcan 1500 Classic Phat II Risers Mustang Seat V & H Straight Shots Kuryakyn pegs

06-25-2005	#16 (permalink)
kevinbrx Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 10	I would just buy a used 750 and part your bike out on ebay. You might even break even.

06-27-2005	#17 (permalink)
billc5 Extreme Forum Supporter Extreme Forum Supporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 533	I agree with theo others. YOU could probably get a good deal on a used 2002 or 3000. That quote seems awfully high. The voteceh schools are a great idea also. Good Luck! __________________ Hers 2006 HD Deluxe (Nostalgia) Mine 2003 Vulcan 1500 Mean Streak-Traded

06-27-2005	#18 (permalink)
eglass64 Can't find time to ride BTK Expert Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lake Villa IIlinois Posts: 557	Try calling Herb's Inc In Antioch Illinois 847-395-5300, Tell him you got the number from Eddie garcia __________________ 97 1500 Classic Cobra Blvd Pipes Caddman Mod. VROC 16254

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