Oil change suggestion

craig atkins · 11-04-2006

I have never examined my old oil before but thought it might be a good idea. I got one of my wife's corning ware clear cassarole dishes, 9X13, and drained my oil into it. let it set for about 2 hours then poured it into the old oil cans to make sure I didn't use much between oil changes. The good part was that once most of the oil was poured out I could use a flashlight to shine from beneath the dish and I was able to see any impurities. I noticed just three little dark spots about the size of a pin head. Two crumbled when I rubbed them between my fingers and the third was a bit of metal. I actually expected to see more and was pleased by the results. I was glad that I only used about a 1/3 of a quart since my last oil change, and I am ashamed to admit that I let it go a little over 5000 miles since my last oil change. I went with the amsoil this time, I used mobile one synthetic last time.

Plato · 11-04-2006

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/

RichLockyer · 11-04-2006

BikerBeagle · 11-05-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig atkins

I got one of my wife's corning ware clear cassarole dishes, 9X13, and drained my oil into it.

If I ever did that, I'd have to sleep with one eye open every night.

Aquaman95 · 11-05-2006

Did you check your oil screen? That's where particles would likely show up.

I'd hide the casserole dish if I were you.

**2WheelFun** · 11-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Aquaman95

Did you check your oil screen? That's where particles would likely show up.

I'd hide the casserole dish if I were you.

LOL...

Anyone using a magnet on your oil filter?

RichLockyer · 11-05-2006

Magnetic drain plug.

I should probably tell Blackstone about it too... my iron results have been lower than what they're used to seeing on a new engine

E-J · 11-07-2006

Equally important or maybe even more so is the filter. Paper element filters filter down to 20 to 35 microns. Since your engine was built with a tolerance of 20 microns the dirt passing through your filter scratches the cylinder walls, rings, bearings and pistons. Many of the new filters are synthetic (polyester) and filter between 12 and 20 microns which tells us that the carbon and dirt are so small they will essentially pass through with little wear damage.

In summary you can save money with a Fram from Walmart or save your engine.

RichLockyer · 11-07-2006

The Walmart Supertech filter is actually a very good filter... as good as a standard Purolator (probably IS).

That said, I run only the M1-110 in the bike and M1-303 in my Duramax.

**2WheelFun** · 11-08-2006

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Originally Posted by RichLockyer

Magnetic drain plug.

I should probably tell Blackstone about it too... my iron results have been lower than what they're used to seeing on a new engine

Where did you get the magnetic drain plug?

I've heard excercising can help with low iron.

**2WheelFun** · 11-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichLockyer

The Walmart Supertech filter is actually a very good filter... as good as a standard Purolator (probably IS).

That said, I run only the M1-110 in the bike and M1-303 in my Duramax.

Are those a Champion filter?

RichLockyer · 11-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2WheelFun

Where did you get the magnetic drain plug?

Some guy on eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2WheelFun

Are those a Champion filter?

Mobil-1. They are made by Champion, synthetic media, but not as restrictive as a Pure-One, thus, less likely to bypass on those cooooold 65-degree mornings

Plato · 11-08-2006

Actually I think the SuperTech filters are made by Champion as well.

**2WheelFun** · 11-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichLockyer

Some guy on eBay

Mobil-1. They are made by Champion, synthetic media, but not as restrictive as a Pure-One, thus, less likely to bypass on those cooooold 65-degree mornings

LOL...

How can you stand riding in such frigid temps?

**2WheelFun** · 11-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plato

Actually I think the SuperTech filters are made by Champion as well.

That's what I read..."somewhere".

11-04-2006	#1 (permalink)
craig atkins Sit speling cheker BTK Expert Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brush Prairie Washington Posts: 441	Oil change suggestion I have never examined my old oil before but thought it might be a good idea. I got one of my wife's corning ware clear cassarole dishes, 9X13, and drained my oil into it. let it set for about 2 hours then poured it into the old oil cans to make sure I didn't use much between oil changes. The good part was that once most of the oil was poured out I could use a flashlight to shine from beneath the dish and I was able to see any impurities. I noticed just three little dark spots about the size of a pin head. Two crumbled when I rubbed them between my fingers and the third was a bit of metal. I actually expected to see more and was pleased by the results. I was glad that I only used about a 1/3 of a quart since my last oil change, and I am ashamed to admit that I let it go a little over 5000 miles since my last oil change. I went with the amsoil this time, I used mobile one synthetic last time. __________________ 2001 Vulcan Nomad ,1962 Impala SS is my other cruiser http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/craigatkins

11-04-2006	#2 (permalink)
Plato Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2004 Location: East Texas Posts: 2,603	http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ __________________ 05 Nomad/V&H Baggers/PCIII/Caddman Risers/Lights/Lowers/Chaps www.home.earthlink.net/~mthompson61

11-04-2006	#3 (permalink)
RichLockyer Patriot Guardian Extreme Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 28,016	Ya beat me to it..... Oil Analysis Collected from Others: http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye...lla-5w40-1.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye...lla-5w40-2.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye...ella-15w40.pdf http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-15w50.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-15w50.pdf http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-vtwin.pdf http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye...15W50-3704.pdf http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye...l_Sample_1.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye..._m1_15w-50.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye..._15w-50_2k.jpg My Personal Test Results: http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-2000.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-virgin.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye...MCV_Virgin.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockye...l_MCV_2000.jpg http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/oil.xls __________________ - Rich 2006 1600 Ultra-Classic Patriot Guard Rider *Please put your bike year/model in your sig line or fill in your profile before asking for help.*

11-05-2006	#5 (permalink)
Aquaman95 Vulcan Ninja BTK Expert Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 409	Did you check your oil screen? That's where particles would likely show up. I'd hide the casserole dish if I were you. __________________ 1998 Vulcan 1500 Classic All the mods. 1997 Vulcan 800B Sold 2000 Nomad Under Construction

11-05-2006	#7 (permalink)
RichLockyer Patriot Guardian Extreme Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 28,016	Magnetic drain plug. I should probably tell Blackstone about it too... my iron results have been lower than what they're used to seeing on a new engine __________________ - Rich 2006 1600 Ultra-Classic Patriot Guard Rider *Please put your bike year/model in your sig line or fill in your profile before asking for help.*

11-07-2006	#8 (permalink)
E-J Every day is a good ride Forum Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Palm Coast, Fla Posts: 1,527	Equally important or maybe even more so is the filter. Paper element filters filter down to 20 to 35 microns. Since your engine was built with a tolerance of 20 microns the dirt passing through your filter scratches the cylinder walls, rings, bearings and pistons. Many of the new filters are synthetic (polyester) and filter between 12 and 20 microns which tells us that the carbon and dirt are so small they will essentially pass through with little wear damage. In summary you can save money with a Fram from Walmart or save your engine.

11-07-2006	#9 (permalink)
RichLockyer Patriot Guardian Extreme Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 28,016	The Walmart Supertech filter is actually a very good filter... as good as a standard Purolator (probably IS). That said, I run only the M1-110 in the bike and M1-303 in my Duramax. __________________ - Rich 2006 1600 Ultra-Classic Patriot Guard Rider *Please put your bike year/model in your sig line or fill in your profile before asking for help.*

11-08-2006	#13 (permalink)
Plato Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2004 Location: East Texas Posts: 2,603	Actually I think the SuperTech filters are made by Champion as well. __________________ 05 Nomad/V&H Baggers/PCIII/Caddman Risers/Lights/Lowers/Chaps www.home.earthlink.net/~mthompson61

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