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ltl_ollie · 03-11-2007

2006 vulcan nomad 1600 fi VH Pipes aftermarket air and fuel mod (2000R) set at 0/0/0. no stock runs made.

LOWFLYER · 03-11-2007

Speaking from experience, I don't know anything about the 900 and this may only pertain to the V2K, but the Hypercharger is for looks. And while it may provide some benefit, you're better off going with some sort of big air kit from Baron's or Thunder. I ended up switching mine out. I couldn't hug the tank with that damn thing on there it stuck out so far and the mounting bracket used to attach it to the bike was partially covering one of the intake holes causing turbulence and ultimately the robbing of smooth airflow to the cylinder. Also with the V2K, you can't put the temperature sensor inside where it belongs, it just gets stuck somewhere behind it with a zip tie. Personally I think the BAK's look better too. Just my .02 cents.

Easyrider32 · 03-16-2007

The higher Torque score is a Vulcan 2000. No one on this site can beat it. This is a real Dyno test! Look out Crotch rockets!

Easyrider32 · 03-16-2007

Thanks for the heads up! I thought the Hypercharger would out perform because of its Induction. I can guess this is only and advantage at very high speeds. If a high volume intake is better than thats what I want. I would like to get as much performance out of my little 900 as posible with Exhaust, Intake and PC III. I do not want the Thunder Tornado and there is no BAK kit for the 900. which one do you recommend for best overall performance?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWFLYER

Speaking from experience, I don't know anything about the 900 and this may only pertain to the V2K, but the Hypercharger is for looks. And while it may provide some benefit, you're better off going with some sort of big air kit from Baron's or Thunder. I ended up switching mine out. I couldn't hug the tank with that damn thing on there it stuck out so far and the mounting bracket used to attach it to the bike was partially covering one of the intake holes causing turbulence and ultimately the robbing of smooth airflow to the cylinder. Also with the V2K, you can't put the temperature sensor inside where it belongs, it just gets stuck somewhere behind it with a zip tie. Personally I think the BAK's look better too. Just my .02 cents.

LOWFLYER · 03-16-2007

I'm not trying to raise the BS flag here or anything, but how in the world do you get a V2K to put out 189ft/lbs of torque and 129 hp? That's a boat load of torque? If you go back to the first page and check my dyno sheet, I only managed to squeak out 132ft/lbs/104hp and that was after several trips to the dyno and a few different exhaust setups......What gives?? In regards to your 900, I would suggest a teardrop airkit which is very similar to the BAK offered by Baron's and Thunder. See this link.....
This is listed to fit the 900 and I think you would be very happy. The hypercharger is bulky and in order to get the max performance out of it they recommend you not even hook it up all the way. By that I mean, don't hook a vacuum line to it so the butterflys stay open all the time. Why have them if they're not going to be functional right? Anyway, questions, let me know.

LOWFLYER · 03-16-2007

I'm not trying to raise the BS flag here or anything, but how in the world do you get a V2K to put out 189ft/lbs of torque and 129 hp? That's a boat load of torque? If you go back to the first page and check my dyno sheet, I only managed to squeak out 132ft/lbs/104hp and that was after several trips to the dyno and a few different exhaust setups......What gives?? In regards to your 900, I would suggest a teardrop airkit which is very similar to the BAK offered by Baron's and Thunder. See this link..... http://www.thundermfg.com/store/index.php?action=item&id=19&prevaction=category&pr evid=6&prevstart=0"]
This is listed to fit the 900 and I think you would be very happy. The hypercharger is bulky and in order to get the max performance out of it they recommend you not even hook it up all the way. By that I mean, don't hook a vacuum line to it so the butterflys stay open all the time. Why have them if they're not going to be functional right? Anyway, questions, let me know.

Easyrider32 · 03-16-2007

LoL I knew that Dyno would get some attention but its not BS! It is not my bike, I just wanted to see the reaction in here. Here is where I got the Dyno results. Check out this article.

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roa...i_vulcan_2000/

PS: If any of you are crazy enough to do this, I don't want to be responcible for giving you this information. So don't hurt yourself!

LOWFLYER · 03-16-2007

Excellent article, thank you very much! Makes me wonder what would happen if they threw a turbo on the Vulcan? Kinda backwards in a way since usually the japs use the turbos and the domestics use the sause. Anyway, thoroughly enjoyed it and I hope that link helps you on your hunt for a good intake.

MeanWon · 03-17-2007

http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ent=doc012.jpg

Bike has the 100 cu. In. Thunder Big Bore Kit w/cams, Thunder air intake & Muzzy 2-into-1 exhaust, tuned with Dynoject Power Commander. As you can see the old timer at the dealership that installed the kit did a hell of a job tuning by ear. The guy who tuned it on the dyno was quite impressed, he could not get much more out of it and spent a good two hours trying.

Max Power = 86.69 RWHP
Max Torque = 91.32 RWTQ

Taking drive train loss into account that would be approximately:

102 HP
107 TQ

Was hoping for closer to the flywheel numbers at the rear wheel, I should have had the porting done some where else, I think I could have got there. Overall, the bike runs excellent, just like it should have from the factory.

Easyrider32 · 03-23-2007

OK this is not my bike, but it is a Vulcan 900 Stock vs Thunder MFG intake. I want to find out more details on the configuration. This is a new Dyno from the Thunder MFG website.

Service manual Stock HP is 50HP and 58 ft lbs torque from the crank.
Dyno Stock 45.3 HP from the rear, 53.4 ft lbs torque.
Dyno Thunder 50.7HP and 56.3 Torque. 10.7% HP Increase and 5% Increase in torque.

Doe this mean that Intake will improve HP more and Exhaust will increase torque more?

*trikebubble* · 03-23-2007

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Originally Posted by LOWFLYER

Excellent article, thank you very much! Makes me wonder what would happen if they threw a turbo on the Vulcan? Kinda backwards in a way since usually the japs use the turbos and the domestics use the sause. Anyway, thoroughly enjoyed it and I hope that link helps you on your hunt for a good intake.

If? Ummmmm.............http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/partong

partong is a regular over on the Delphi Forum, he is the guy who came up with the "5th gear cheat mod". The resistor that is added into the mix to fool the V2K's timing into not retarding in the first 3 gears.
He is a for real rocket scientist.

moparman · 03-24-2007

Hey Carlo, I still haven't recieved the second try on those resistors. Looks like we will have to find them ourselves. It was worth all the stamps I guess because sooner or later, we will get what we need and it still will be a damncheap mod.
I will look in Boise on my next trip down. I believe there are some big electronics places there but I guess the correct resistor is not a common one. I'll le you know as soon as I find any. You do the same?

LOWFLYER · 03-24-2007

Ok, will someone pls give me the link to this 5th gear cheat mod?? I searched the forum and this was the only thread that popped up. I've never heard of it until now. Thanks.

sourdough · 03-24-2007

I tried to scan my dynorun but I don't think anything happened. Anyway, on my 05 800b with v&h curzers as opposed to stock I got max torque of 4i.8 /38.6. Horsepower was 51.3/46.9. No other mods. I will try to get my son to scan it. Horsepower and torque was higher from less than 3000 to 7700. This was done at a harley shop and I could not convince the tech that he could take it up to the cut-off. The stock run he would only take it up to 7300, 7600 to 7700 after the pipes were added. I guess Harleys don't rev that high?
Sourdough

sourdough · 03-24-2007

I don't think so. Alot depends on what mods were done v/s what restrictions the stock equipment has. this can very all over the place. Check out my 800b v&h mods below. I figure I got 8%torque increase and 9% hp increase at max. What I really like is that the increase is over the whole range!
By the way, does anyone know if the Russian Wolf stuff is available anywhere? He had a lot of useful stuff I would like to look at again. ie lightbulbs,tires,etc..

Jambolaya · 03-26-2007

I'm quite confused by the postings on this thread. Some of them are for different cycles. Some of them don't tell which cycles they're for. One of them is apparently for a nitrous injected cycle. And the graphs aren't clear to me as to whether they're for just a pipe, a pipe and a intake, and what else.

Id like to know if I'll gain anything worth doing on my V2K by just installing a Cobra HP Pro 2 into 1 pipe. Will the ECU accomodate the changes in back pressure? Will I lose mileage? Will I gain power or throttle response or just noise.? Is more really worth doing?

moparman · 03-26-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWFLYER

Ok, will someone pls give me the link to this 5th gear cheat mod?? I searched the forum and this was the only thread that popped up. I've never heard of it until now. Thanks.

Here is the main V2K page. You need to search and do research to get ALL the info. It isn't in just one thread. There is other good info there too.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/...can&ctx=524288

This is a good one to start too
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/...n&msg=64162.15

Check out the butterfly mod too.

LOWFLYER · 03-27-2007

Ah man, another forum. Thanks though, I appreciate the step in the right direction.

SleekStreak · 03-27-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easyrider32

LoL I knew that Dyno would get some attention but its not BS! It is not my bike, I just wanted to see the reaction in here. Here is where I got the Dyno results. Check out this article.

Dyno'ing on NOS seems like false results as to what your motor is capable of. Seems pointless to me, but... anyway... why would anyone want to drag a VN 2000 to begin with? It's so freakin heavy!

Easyrider32 · 03-28-2007

True NOS is false; I only posted that to grab your attention. You have to admit it is an amazing Dyno result! Personally I am more interested in Vulcan 900 results. A 20% Increase in performance would be nice.

03-11-2007	#22 (permalink)
LOWFLYER Rogue Runner BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: McGuire AFB, Armpit New Jersey Posts: 142	Hypercharger vs Big Air Kits Speaking from experience, I don't know anything about the 900 and this may only pertain to the V2K, but the Hypercharger is for looks. And while it may provide some benefit, you're better off going with some sort of big air kit from Baron's or Thunder. I ended up switching mine out. I couldn't hug the tank with that damn thing on there it stuck out so far and the mounting bracket used to attach it to the bike was partially covering one of the intake holes causing turbulence and ultimately the robbing of smooth airflow to the cylinder. Also with the V2K, you can't put the temperature sensor inside where it belongs, it just gets stuck somewhere behind it with a zip tie. Personally I think the BAK's look better too. Just my .02 cents. __________________ 07 Candy Plasma Blue ZX-14-Stock for now.......

03-16-2007	#23 (permalink)
Easyrider32 Can't find time to ride BTK Expert Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 588	The higher Torque score is a Vulcan 2000. No one on this site can beat it. This is a real Dyno test! Look out Crotch rockets! Attached Thumbnails

03-16-2007	#25 (permalink)
LOWFLYER Rogue Runner BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: McGuire AFB, Armpit New Jersey Posts: 142	I'm not trying to raise the BS flag here or anything, but how in the world do you get a V2K to put out 189ft/lbs of torque and 129 hp? That's a boat load of torque? If you go back to the first page and check my dyno sheet, I only managed to squeak out 132ft/lbs/104hp and that was after several trips to the dyno and a few different exhaust setups......What gives?? In regards to your 900, I would suggest a teardrop airkit which is very similar to the BAK offered by Baron's and Thunder. See this link..... This is listed to fit the 900 and I think you would be very happy. The hypercharger is bulky and in order to get the max performance out of it they recommend you not even hook it up all the way. By that I mean, don't hook a vacuum line to it so the butterflys stay open all the time. Why have them if they're not going to be functional right? Anyway, questions, let me know. __________________ 07 Candy Plasma Blue ZX-14-Stock for now.......

03-16-2007	#26 (permalink)
LOWFLYER Rogue Runner BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: McGuire AFB, Armpit New Jersey Posts: 142	I'm not trying to raise the BS flag here or anything, but how in the world do you get a V2K to put out 189ft/lbs of torque and 129 hp? That's a boat load of torque? If you go back to the first page and check my dyno sheet, I only managed to squeak out 132ft/lbs/104hp and that was after several trips to the dyno and a few different exhaust setups......What gives?? In regards to your 900, I would suggest a teardrop airkit which is very similar to the BAK offered by Baron's and Thunder. See this link..... http://www.thundermfg.com/store/index.php?action=item&id=19&prevaction=category&pr evid=6&prevstart=0"] This is listed to fit the 900 and I think you would be very happy. The hypercharger is bulky and in order to get the max performance out of it they recommend you not even hook it up all the way. By that I mean, don't hook a vacuum line to it so the butterflys stay open all the time. Why have them if they're not going to be functional right? Anyway, questions, let me know. __________________ 07 Candy Plasma Blue ZX-14-Stock for now.......

03-16-2007	#27 (permalink)
Easyrider32 Can't find time to ride BTK Expert Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 588	LoL I knew that Dyno would get some attention but its not BS! It is not my bike, I just wanted to see the reaction in here. Here is where I got the Dyno results. Check out this article. http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roa...i_vulcan_2000/ PS: If any of you are crazy enough to do this, I don't want to be responcible for giving you this information. So don't hurt yourself! Last edited by Easyrider32 : 03-16-2007 at 08:02 PM.

03-16-2007	#28 (permalink)
LOWFLYER Rogue Runner BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: McGuire AFB, Armpit New Jersey Posts: 142	Excellent article, thank you very much! Makes me wonder what would happen if they threw a turbo on the Vulcan? Kinda backwards in a way since usually the japs use the turbos and the domestics use the sause. Anyway, thoroughly enjoyed it and I hope that link helps you on your hunt for a good intake.

03-17-2007	#29 (permalink)
MeanWon Uncle Bob's Love Child BTK Intermediate Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: OKC Posts: 267	MS with Thunder Big Bore Kit http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ent=doc012.jpg Bike has the 100 cu. In. Thunder Big Bore Kit w/cams, Thunder air intake & Muzzy 2-into-1 exhaust, tuned with Dynoject Power Commander. As you can see the old timer at the dealership that installed the kit did a hell of a job tuning by ear. The guy who tuned it on the dyno was quite impressed, he could not get much more out of it and spent a good two hours trying. Max Power = 86.69 RWHP Max Torque = 91.32 RWTQ Taking drive train loss into account that would be approximately: 102 HP 107 TQ Was hoping for closer to the flywheel numbers at the rear wheel, I should have had the porting done some where else, I think I could have got there. Overall, the bike runs excellent, just like it should have from the factory. __________________ '06 Ebony/Metallic Persimmon Red Meanstreak 2008 Concours 14

03-23-2007	#30 (permalink)
Easyrider32 Can't find time to ride BTK Expert Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 588	Vulcan 900 Dyno with Thunder MFG Intake OK this is not my bike, but it is a Vulcan 900 Stock vs Thunder MFG intake. I want to find out more details on the configuration. This is a new Dyno from the Thunder MFG website. Service manual Stock HP is 50HP and 58 ft lbs torque from the crank. Dyno Stock 45.3 HP from the rear, 53.4 ft lbs torque. Dyno Thunder 50.7HP and 56.3 Torque. 10.7% HP Increase and 5% Increase in torque. Doe this mean that Intake will improve HP more and Exhaust will increase torque more? Attached Thumbnails

03-24-2007	#32 (permalink)
moparman I ride, therefore I am. Forum Supporter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West Central Idaho Mountains Posts: 1,561	Hey Carlo, I still haven't recieved the second try on those resistors. Looks like we will have to find them ourselves. It was worth all the stamps I guess because sooner or later, we will get what we need and it still will be a damncheap mod. I will look in Boise on my next trip down. I believe there are some big electronics places there but I guess the correct resistor is not a common one. I'll le you know as soon as I find any. You do the same? __________________ A day without a ride is like a day without sunshine.That's usually the reason, so it all works out.

03-24-2007	#33 (permalink)
LOWFLYER Rogue Runner BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: McGuire AFB, Armpit New Jersey Posts: 142	Ok, will someone pls give me the link to this 5th gear cheat mod?? I searched the forum and this was the only thread that popped up. I've never heard of it until now. Thanks.

03-24-2007	#34 (permalink)
sourdough Foil Inspector BTK Beginner Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: central Texas Posts: 117	I tried to scan my dynorun but I don't think anything happened. Anyway, on my 05 800b with v&h curzers as opposed to stock I got max torque of 4i.8 /38.6. Horsepower was 51.3/46.9. No other mods. I will try to get my son to scan it. Horsepower and torque was higher from less than 3000 to 7700. This was done at a harley shop and I could not convince the tech that he could take it up to the cut-off. The stock run he would only take it up to 7300, 7600 to 7700 after the pipes were added. I guess Harleys don't rev that high? Sourdough __________________ "Better to die on your feet than live on our knees" Zapata

03-24-2007	#35 (permalink)
sourdough Foil Inspector BTK Beginner Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: central Texas Posts: 117	I don't think so. Alot depends on what mods were done v/s what restrictions the stock equipment has. this can very all over the place. Check out my 800b v&h mods below. I figure I got 8%torque increase and 9% hp increase at max. What I really like is that the increase is over the whole range! By the way, does anyone know if the Russian Wolf stuff is available anywhere? He had a lot of useful stuff I would like to look at again. ie lightbulbs,tires,etc.. __________________ "Better to die on your feet than live on our knees" Zapata

03-26-2007	#36 (permalink)
Jambolaya Refrigerator Magnet Test Engineer BTK Expert Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 475	I'm quite confused by the postings on this thread. Some of them are for different cycles. Some of them don't tell which cycles they're for. One of them is apparently for a nitrous injected cycle. And the graphs aren't clear to me as to whether they're for just a pipe, a pipe and a intake, and what else. Id like to know if I'll gain anything worth doing on my V2K by just installing a Cobra HP Pro 2 into 1 pipe. Will the ECU accomodate the changes in back pressure? Will I lose mileage? Will I gain power or throttle response or just noise.? Is more really worth doing?

03-27-2007	#38 (permalink)
LOWFLYER Rogue Runner BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: McGuire AFB, Armpit New Jersey Posts: 142	Ah man, another forum. Thanks though, I appreciate the step in the right direction.

03-28-2007	#40 (permalink)
Easyrider32 Can't find time to ride BTK Expert Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 588	True NOS is false; I only posted that to grab your attention. You have to admit it is an amazing Dyno result! Personally I am more interested in Vulcan 900 results. A 20% Increase in performance would be nice.