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jeffs99vulcan · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by ramashkaus

I will order scootworks rear and front lowering kit today or sunday. Will i be able to install it myself? What tools do i need?
I loved the bobber thread. Is there a way to make a "no commitment" bobber? I would like the option to switch back at times. How easy is that rear fender to remove and install? What else needs to be done to mount the stock seat?

Yes, there is!!! And I'm ALL OVER that concept... just not ready to do it until I have a second bike... I want to be riding while I'm modding... but in the mean time I've tracked just about every thread with any 800 "no commitment" bobber in it for that reason...

Here are a couple:

billymac814

El Skitzo

There are a TON of GREAT 800 bobbers out there, and this isn't to take away from any of the others, but these guys just did it with an emphasis on the "reversibility" of the work, and both went into extensive detail on how they did what they did.

There's some good reading in both of them and some GREAT results!!!

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Originally Posted by rustygunner

Jeff's ticking noise drove most of us nuts... Good thing I was already nuts to begin with.

Ya. It wasn't a long drive for "some" people!!!

jeffs99vulcan · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by insolentminx

i said it was the chain from day one...

but noooooooo. nobody listens to the little Englishman

i think this is my first post in this thread...

You wonder why?! We're supposed to pick out ONE LITTLE SUGGESTION out of the THOUSANDS of drivel-bits and think that you're actually RIGHT about something?!

(and you weren't detailed enough... I DID adjust the chain!!!)

insolentminx · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by jeffs99vulcan

You wonder why?! We're supposed to pick out ONE LITTLE SUGGESTION out of the THOUSANDS of drivel-bits and think that you're actually RIGHT about something?!

(and you weren't detailed enough... I DID adjust the chain!!!)

i didn't actually make any suggestions, i just assumed it was in your head.

sorry for yanking your chain

mcwrath · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by insolentminx

Turn the icons upside down...LMFAO!!

rustygunner · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by jeffs99vulcan

Ya. It wasn't a long drive for "some" people!!!

Nope, no need to even get the keys out... takin' a trip without leavin' the farm.

Bowbender · 07-10-2009

I just read Jeff's odyssey with his chain. Not everything mind you, just the highlights and the grand finale. Live and learn I guess.

No news on my front yet, but I do have this to add as more of a "why" question.

It just seems odd to me that pulling my choke out makes the bike rev like there's no tomorrow. Consider this a second...

If I pull the choke on the lawn mower (four stroke), the weed eater (two stroke), the brush trimmer (four stroke), the atv (four stroke), they all sputter and usually die within a very short time period. I assume from diminished air and increased fuel. However my bike (04' Vulcan 500 for those not following closely) it revs up quite high. It just seems unlikely. I'm willing to live with it if it's just something these bikes do, but just not used to it in the slightest. Does the bike not use the same type of system (butterflies on the carbs) to reduce air intake? From viewing pictures of the carbs it seems they do.

Again, I will post any updates as I find them. Just have to wait until I'm home.

rustygunner · 07-10-2009

That's because a 'choke' on a motorcycle (although it's still called a choke) is actually not a choke at all, but an enricher.

rustygunner · 07-10-2009

Oh, no butterflies in the carbs either; it's CV (constant velocity)... has a slide instead.

Bowbender · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by rustygunner

That's because a 'choke' on a motorcycle (although it's still called a choke) is actually not a choke at all, but an enricher.

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Originally Posted by rustygunner

Oh, no butterflies in the carbs either; it's CV (constant velocity)... has a slide instead.

Ah, that would explain it and also show everyone here what I don't know about carbs on a Kawasaki.

Bear with me, as I'm new to this type of setup (enrichers and slides).

Like I said in an earlier post, I've got the Seafoam in the tank now and this weekend should be a good one for giving it a thorough looking over.

Thanks to all who responded so far.

rustygunner · 07-10-2009

I didn't know beans about m/c carbs a few years ago... now I'm the local expert, lol.

mcwrath · 07-10-2009

The choke is "choking" the air flow, not the fuel flow. So you are actually increasing the fuel/air ratio when you pull the choke out.

Wiscblue · 07-10-2009

Jeff - I think the best way to start a bobber project is to buy an "A" to sit next to your "B"

My Classic is staying Classic but I'd love to pick up another bike some day and rat/bob is out - or at least do what I can with it for fun.

rustygunner · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by mcwrath

The choke is "choking" the air flow, not the fuel flow. So you are actually increasing the fuel/air ratio when you pull the choke out.

Actually the enricher on a motorcycle opens a valve and lets more fuel into the mix. A choke like on a lawnmower restricts the air, which does about the same thing.

rustygunner · 07-10-2009

Well, my stinkin' float is sticking again. I've been down this road before so I went ahead and ordered a float kit. Unfortunately, it won't be here until next week.
What is up with the float problems anyway? Ethanol in the gas maybe?

tkuligowski · 07-10-2009

what exactly is a float kit? I haven't heard of carb kits for bikes anymore. With all the kawis i've had I've had to order all the parts seperately from the diagrahms.

rustygunner · 07-10-2009

Float and Needle... for $34

Wiscblue · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by rustygunner

Well, my stinkin' float is sticking again. I've been down this road before so I went ahead and ordered a float kit. Unfortunately, it won't be here until next week.
What is up with the float problems anyway? Ethanol in the gas maybe?

How did you know that was your problem? - How does the performance change that suggests a sticking float?

And they want to mix more ethanol in the gas! People don't realize how much ethanol sucks in many aspects.

woodchucks800 · 07-10-2009

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Originally Posted by Wiscblue

How did you know that was your problem? - How does the performance change that suggests a sticking float?

Reread post 3390 ,Rusty said he had BEANS in is carb! ( or somthing like that)

Bowbender · 07-10-2009

Well, I have an update.

Seafoam rocks!!!

I put 1/3 a bottle of it along with 3/4 of a tank of gas. Tonight I drove it around the yard (very large yard) and long driveway for around an hour.

It started idling high. Keep in mind that is was holding a rev after I let the throttle go and that was it. I thought I now had another problem. So to compensate I lowered the idle and low and behold, the holdover revving was gone! I had the idle higher because I thought someone set it too low, but it was idling bad because of the gummed up carbs (at least that is what I think).

It is running beautifully and I'd like to thank you guys for you suggestions and help.

cosmicsclassic · 07-11-2009

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Originally Posted by rustygunner

Oh, no butterflies in the carbs either; it's CV (constant velocity)... has a slide instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustygunner

Well, my stinkin' float is sticking again. I've been down this road before so I went ahead and ordered a float kit. Unfortunately, it won't be here until next week.
What is up with the float problems anyway? Ethanol in the gas maybe?

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Originally Posted by Bowbender

Well, I have an update.

Seafoam rocks!!!

I put 1/3 a bottle of it along with 3/4 of a tank of gas. Tonight I drove it around the yard (very large yard) and long driveway for around an hour.

It started idling high. Keep in mind that is was holding a rev after I let the throttle go and that was it. I thought I now had another problem. So to compensate I lowered the idle and low and behold, the holdover revving was gone! I had the idle higher because I thought someone set it too low, but it was idling bad because of the gummed up carbs (at least that is what I think).

It is running beautifully and I'd like to thank you guys for you suggestions and help.

Hey Rusty, First the carb still has a butterfly (throttle plate), the throttle cables attach to the butterfly shaft to which the butterfly plate is attached, which when opened up causes the slide to lift open, your right about no choke plate (butterfly) and how the carb has an enrichener instead. Next, sorry to hear about your float valve problem ( I thought I had read you had replaced it once already, guess I'm mistaken) but yes the ethanol can take it's toll, another potential problem could be using to much seafoam (or other carb cleaner) in a too stronge mixture,or too often. I work for a chemical company and gasket/seal shrinkage/swellage is a problem that happens often with different chemicals. The next problem I think we'er going to see is carb diapham problems (swelling) related to this also, but I hope not (fingers crossed) for I have a carb, and the potential related problems, too.

07-10-2009	#3387 (permalink)
rustygunner Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 4,032	That's because a 'choke' on a motorcycle (although it's still called a choke) is actually not a choke at all, but an enricher. __________________ '95 800A (sold) '01 1500 Nomad "we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good" -Dave Karlotski-

07-10-2009	#3388 (permalink)
rustygunner Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 4,032	Oh, no butterflies in the carbs either; it's CV (constant velocity)... has a slide instead. __________________ '95 800A (sold) '01 1500 Nomad "we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good" -Dave Karlotski-

07-10-2009	#3390 (permalink)
rustygunner Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 4,032	I didn't know beans about m/c carbs a few years ago... now I'm the local expert, lol. __________________ '95 800A (sold) '01 1500 Nomad "we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good" -Dave Karlotski-

07-10-2009	#3391 (permalink)
mcwrath I was at D.O.D #1! BTK Expert Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 701	The choke is "choking" the air flow, not the fuel flow. So you are actually increasing the fuel/air ratio when you pull the choke out. __________________ 1998 Vulcan 800 classic "Grit, spit, and a whole lot of duct tape!" My motorcycle pics!

07-10-2009	#3392 (permalink)
Wiscblue Waiting out the WI winter BTK Expert Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: WI Posts: 720	Jeff - I think the best way to start a bobber project is to buy an "A" to sit next to your "B" My Classic is staying Classic but I'd love to pick up another bike some day and rat/bob is out - or at least do what I can with it for fun. __________________ '99 Vulcan 800 Classic Don't drop what where?

07-10-2009	#3386 (permalink)
Bowbender Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 17	I just read Jeff's odyssey with his chain. Not everything mind you, just the highlights and the grand finale. Live and learn I guess. No news on my front yet, but I do have this to add as more of a "why" question. It just seems odd to me that pulling my choke out makes the bike rev like there's no tomorrow. Consider this a second... If I pull the choke on *the lawn mower (four stroke), the weed eater (two stroke), the brush trimmer (four stroke), the atv (four stroke), they all sputter and usually die within a very short time period*. I assume from diminished air and increased fuel. However my bike (04' Vulcan 500 for those not following closely) it revs up quite high. It just seems unlikely. I'm willing to live with it if it's just something these bikes do, but just not used to it in the slightest. Does the bike not use the same type of system (butterflies on the carbs) to reduce air intake? From viewing pictures of the carbs it seems they do. Again, I will post any updates as I find them. Just have to wait until I'm home.

07-10-2009	#3394 (permalink)
rustygunner Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 4,032	Well, my stinkin' float is sticking again. I've been down this road before so I went ahead and ordered a float kit. Unfortunately, it won't be here until next week. What is up with the float problems anyway? Ethanol in the gas maybe? __________________ '95 800A (sold) '01 1500 Nomad "we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good" -Dave Karlotski-

07-10-2009	#3395 (permalink)
tkuligowski Wants better weather! BTK Expert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beatrice, NE Posts: 815	what exactly is a float kit? I haven't heard of carb kits for bikes anymore. With all the kawis i've had I've had to order all the parts seperately from the diagrahms. __________________ Tony 1998 VN800B

07-10-2009	#3396 (permalink)
rustygunner Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 4,032	Float and Needle... for $34 __________________ '95 800A (sold) '01 1500 Nomad "we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good" -Dave Karlotski-

07-10-2009	#3399 (permalink)
Bowbender Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 17	Well, I have an update. Seafoam rocks!!! I put 1/3 a bottle of it along with 3/4 of a tank of gas. Tonight I drove it around the yard (very large yard) and long driveway for around an hour. It started idling high. Keep in mind that is was holding a rev after I let the throttle go and that was it. I thought I now had another problem. So to compensate I lowered the idle and low and behold, the holdover revving was gone! I had the idle higher because I thought someone set it too low, but it was idling bad because of the gummed up carbs (at least that is what I think). It is running beautifully and I'd like to thank you guys for you suggestions and help.

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