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Mercury · 02-04-2009

last time i rode was right after i did my clutch, what a fun day but now the roads are covered in salt sand and snow and ice so its tough to go two wheelin

kenny

ohsoloco · 02-04-2009

Well, since it's been so quiet I'll bring up my saddlebag issue. The custom hard bags just aren't going to work that I wanted to make, so I'm going to buy some throwovers and probably mod them to work without the yoke. This is the set I really like

Saddlebags

Problem is, it looks like the BOTTOM is 13" across, rather than the entire length being 13". Any way these would work without moving my stock turn signals? When I was measuring for my other ones, it looked like 11-1/2" to 12" was the max that would fit in there (without a slant).

The weather for Sunday and Monday looks awesome. I may just have to charge up the battery. Do I need to disconnect the battery from the bike if I'm charging it with a float charger?

Mercury · 02-04-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohsoloco

Well, since it's been so quiet I'll bring up my saddlebag issue. The custom hard bags just aren't going to work that I wanted to make, so I'm going to buy some throwovers and probably mod them to work without the yoke. This is the set I really like

Saddlebags

Problem is, it looks like the BOTTOM is 13" across, rather than the entire length being 13". Any way these would work without moving my stock turn signals? When I was measuring for my other ones, it looked like 11-1/2" to 12" was the max that would fit in there (without a slant).

The weather for Sunday and Monday looks awesome. I may just have to charge up the battery. Do I need to disconnect the battery from the bike if I'm charging it with a float charger?

check out edgeleather.com they have nice bags...

as for the charger, just charge it where it is no need to disconnect from the bike

kenny

ohsoloco · 02-04-2009

Good to know about the charger.

Yeah, those saddlebags are nice, but there is no way I'm going to spend that much money on saddlebags. I'm cheeeeep.

rustygunner · 02-05-2009

I was working on some new bags for mine, until I found myself in a bit of financial trouble. Every dollar counts now that I have to live on 2/3 of my income.
Thinking about modding (and re-dying) my current bags. Removing the yoke, and making some sort of semi-hard bags out of them. Saw something about that on the web somewhere.

Going to ride this weekend... roads are crap, but I'm going crazy here.

jeffs99vulcan · 02-05-2009

Hey loco.... yes, charge it right where it sits, Kenny's got it right (usually does!)

The bags... that's a tough call, given the shape and the placement of the rear blinkers, but it looks like they would work. They protrude FORWARD, not backward, so they might be OK... but I think I'd get dimensions of all four corners to be sure. Nothing worse that trying to save money, then spending more to fix something that doesn't work...

I got rid of my yoke too...

I now wish I had gone with large instead of jumbo, because I think I'm going to have a hard time getting the rear dresser bars on that I got for Christmas, with my bags as far forward as they are...

ohsoloco · 02-05-2009

I'm worried about my passenger as well. When I was messing around with making my own, I made some out of cardboard to test the size, and my fiance had a heck of a time getting on without hitting the bags. I really need the extra storage though. Also wanna get that sissy bar so I can get a pack to put on the back. I have a Tour Master duffel bag type thing that bungees to the luggage rack (came with the bike), but it just isn't enough room sometimes.

jeffs99vulcan · 02-05-2009

Looking back, I wanted the largest saddlebags that would actually fit on the bike... thought I'd get the most room I could. But now I find that for touring around and short runs, I'd be fine with one size smaller, which would let me put the dresser bars on. I can't get a laptop in them anyway because of the depth, so when I do bring my laptop home and back, I'm bungying it to the back rest in a separate bag anyway.

On longer trips, I'd automatically need a rack bag anyway, so it wouldn't matter if the saddlebags were one size smaller. Right now I just use a backpack and bungy that to the back rest, but I'd like a nice proper bag one day...

cosmicsclassic · 02-05-2009

Hey Jeff, Are You Cold? Looks Like Your A** Is Freezin!

jeffs99vulcan · 02-05-2009

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Originally Posted by cosmicsclassic

Hey Jeff, Are You Cold? Looks Like Your A** Is Freezin!

My @ss looks EXACTLY how I feel!!!

rustygunner · 02-06-2009

Sorry for you Jeff... here it's going to be 43 today and 52 tomorrow...

The roads are terrible though... tons of salt, sand and potholes

jeffs99vulcan · 02-06-2009

I don't know rusty, I think I'm just as sorry for YOU! Riding TEMP is OK, but roads are not! That's just a TEASE!!!

jeffs99vulcan · 02-06-2009

OK, here's my question, having thoroughly read (for the second time) BOTH the scooter and grampsizing docs...

Which would YOU choose, and WHY?

And second...

Wolf isn't shy to say that an aftermarket needle doesn't seat as nicely as the OEM, so what is the argument for changing it?

rsterren · 02-06-2009

I went for the grampsize because it keeps the look the same.
and is less work

rsterren · 02-06-2009

needle i dont know, the shop where i got the dyno set did it form me, i chickend out after i couldnt get the mixure screw plug out.
so no idea if it sits right or not

jeffs99vulcan · 02-06-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsterren

I went for the grampsize because it keeps the look the same.
and is less work

Because of the cutting of the cover? That's about the only difference, right?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsterren

needle i dont know, the shop where i got the dyno set did it form me, i chickend out after i couldnt get the mixure screw plug out.
so no idea if it sits right or not

Did you try to get the plug out? Is it still in?

ohsoloco · 02-06-2009

Yes, what was your problem getting the plug off of the mixture screw? That's something I would like to do sometime.

Mercury · 02-06-2009

trick to the plug... small drill bit and a small metal screw... drill a small hole then thred in a metal screw... it will usually spin right out then... do not drill too deep as you will bugger up the a/f screw it self and need a new one

kenny

jeffs99vulcan · 02-07-2009

Kenny, you didn't answer the original question... scootersize or grampsize, and why?!

OEM needle or aftermarket needle, and why?!

cosmicsclassic · 02-07-2009

HEY JEFF, I'M NOT MERCURY, BUT I GRAMPSIZED MY AIR CLEANER, EASYER TO DO, I LIKED NOT SEEING THE AIR FLITER AND KEEPING RAIN OUT, BUT MAINLY I LIKED THE OEM LOOK. LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT BREATHS GOOD, CUT OUT IN THE FRONT ACTS LIKE A SCOOP, BUT NOT TO NOTICABLE TO OEM LOOK. I LIKED THE S&S TEARDROP AIR CLEANER BUT I'M NOT SPENDING $200- $300 ON ANY AIR CLEANER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WOLF MEANS ABOUT OEM NEEDLE FITMENT, I HAVE A COBRA JET ADJUSTABLE, SEEMS TO WORK FINE, BUT I DID READ (AND do) ABOUT NEEDLE BOUNCE, NEEDLE FITS LOOSELY IN SLIDE, BUT IS SOLVED BY PUTTING A WASHER ONTOP OF C-CILP TO TAKE UP SLACK, C-CLIP ALONE IS NOT AS THICK AS OEM'S HEAD. I LIKE THE ADJUSTABLY OF THE AFTERMARKET NEEDLE, MANY HERE RUN THE C-CLIP IN 2ND GROOVE, I FOUND MY BIKE RUNS BETTER WITH A WASHER UNDER C-CLIP ALSO, ALSO HELP TIGHTEN AGAINST BOUNCE. I GUESS YOU COULD SHIM THE OEM NEEDLE, I'VE NEVER TRIED. HOPE THIS HELPS, COS

02-04-2009	#1181 (permalink)
Mercury Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 2,777	last time i rode was right after i did my clutch, what a fun day but now the roads are covered in salt sand and snow and ice so its tough to go two wheelin kenny __________________ 2000 drifter 800 - lightly modded 2003 360 4x4 atv

02-04-2009	#1182 (permalink)
ohsoloco Made It To Second Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 75	Well, since it's been so quiet I'll bring up my saddlebag issue. The custom hard bags just aren't going to work that I wanted to make, so I'm going to buy some throwovers and probably mod them to work without the yoke. This is the set I really like Saddlebags Problem is, it looks like the BOTTOM is 13" across, rather than the entire length being 13". Any way these would work without moving my stock turn signals? When I was measuring for my other ones, it looked like 11-1/2" to 12" was the max that would fit in there (without a slant). The weather for Sunday and Monday looks awesome. I may just have to charge up the battery. Do I need to disconnect the battery from the bike if I'm charging it with a float charger? Last edited by ohsoloco : 02-04-2009 at 07:04 PM.

02-05-2009	#1185 (permalink)
rustygunner Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 4,032	I was working on some new bags for mine, until I found myself in a bit of financial trouble. Every dollar counts now that I have to live on 2/3 of my income. Thinking about modding (and re-dying) my current bags. Removing the yoke, and making some sort of semi-hard bags out of them. Saw something about that on the web somewhere. Going to ride this weekend... roads are crap, but I'm going crazy here. __________________ '95 800A (sold) '01 1500 Nomad "we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good" -Dave Karlotski-

02-05-2009	#1186 (permalink)
jeffs99vulcan Keeper of Donkey Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 13,803	Hey loco.... yes, charge it right where it sits, Kenny's got it right (usually does!) The bags... that's a tough call, given the shape and the placement of the rear blinkers, but it looks like they would work. They protrude FORWARD, not backward, so they might be OK... but I think I'd get dimensions of all four corners to be sure. Nothing worse that trying to save money, then spending more to fix something that doesn't work... I got rid of my yoke too... I now wish I had gone with large instead of jumbo, because I think I'm going to have a hard time getting the rear dresser bars on that I got for Christmas, with my bags as far forward as they are... __________________ Jeff - Ottawa, Ontario '99 Vulcan 800 Classic I WAS THERE! Day of Donkey August 8, 2009 Kansas March '09 M-o-M Last edited by jeffs99vulcan : 02-05-2009 at 08:34 AM.

02-05-2009	#1188 (permalink)
jeffs99vulcan Keeper of Donkey Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 13,803	Looking back, I wanted the largest saddlebags that would actually fit on the bike... thought I'd get the most room I could. But now I find that for touring around and short runs, I'd be fine with one size smaller, which would let me put the dresser bars on. I can't get a laptop in them anyway because of the depth, so when I do bring my laptop home and back, I'm bungying it to the back rest in a separate bag anyway. On longer trips, I'd automatically need a rack bag anyway, so it wouldn't matter if the saddlebags were one size smaller. Right now I just use a backpack and bungy that to the back rest, but I'd like a nice proper bag one day... __________________ Jeff - Ottawa, Ontario '99 Vulcan 800 Classic I WAS THERE! Day of Donkey August 8, 2009 Kansas March '09 M-o-M

02-04-2009	#1184 (permalink)
ohsoloco Made It To Second Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 75	Good to know about the charger. Yeah, those saddlebags are nice, but there is no way I'm going to spend that much money on saddlebags. I'm cheeeeep.

02-05-2009	#1187 (permalink)
ohsoloco Made It To Second Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 75	I'm worried about my passenger as well. When I was messing around with making my own, I made some out of cardboard to test the size, and my fiance had a heck of a time getting on without hitting the bags. I really need the extra storage though. Also wanna get that sissy bar so I can get a pack to put on the back. I have a Tour Master duffel bag type thing that bungees to the luggage rack (came with the bike), but it just isn't enough room sometimes.

02-05-2009	#1189 (permalink)
cosmicsclassic JUST WANT TO CRUZ BTK Expert Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Severn,MD Posts: 777	Hey Jeff, Are You Cold? Looks Like Your A** Is Freezin!

02-06-2009	#1191 (permalink)
rustygunner Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 4,032	Sorry for you Jeff... here it's going to be 43 today and 52 tomorrow... The roads are terrible though... tons of salt, sand and potholes __________________ '95 800A (sold) '01 1500 Nomad "we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good" -Dave Karlotski-

02-06-2009	#1192 (permalink)
jeffs99vulcan Keeper of Donkey Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 13,803	I don't know rusty, I think I'm just as sorry for YOU! Riding TEMP is OK, but roads are not! That's just a TEASE!!! __________________ Jeff - Ottawa, Ontario '99 Vulcan 800 Classic I WAS THERE! Day of Donkey August 8, 2009 Kansas March '09 M-o-M

02-06-2009	#1193 (permalink)
jeffs99vulcan Keeper of Donkey Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 13,803	OK, here's my question, having thoroughly read (for the second time) BOTH the scooter and grampsizing docs... Which would YOU choose, and WHY? And second... Wolf isn't shy to say that an aftermarket needle doesn't seat as nicely as the OEM, so what is the argument for changing it? __________________ Jeff - Ottawa, Ontario '99 Vulcan 800 Classic I WAS THERE! Day of Donkey August 8, 2009 Kansas March '09 M-o-M

02-06-2009	#1194 (permalink)
rsterren Cruising In Fourth Gear BTK Intermediate Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Netherlands, Europe Posts: 210	I went for the grampsize because it keeps the look the same. and is less work __________________ 1997 VN800 Classic. 2004 HD Nighttrain Real men don't eat honey, they chew bees!

02-06-2009	#1195 (permalink)
rsterren Cruising In Fourth Gear BTK Intermediate Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Netherlands, Europe Posts: 210	needle i dont know, the shop where i got the dyno set did it form me, i chickend out after i couldnt get the mixure screw plug out. so no idea if it sits right or not __________________ 1997 VN800 Classic. 2004 HD Nighttrain Real men don't eat honey, they chew bees!

02-06-2009	#1197 (permalink)
ohsoloco Made It To Second Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 75	Yes, what was your problem getting the plug off of the mixture screw? That's something I would like to do sometime.

02-06-2009	#1198 (permalink)
Mercury Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 2,777	trick to the plug... small drill bit and a small metal screw... drill a small hole then thred in a metal screw... it will usually spin right out then... do not drill too deep as you will bugger up the a/f screw it self and need a new one kenny __________________ 2000 drifter 800 - lightly modded 2003 360 4x4 atv

02-07-2009	#1199 (permalink)
jeffs99vulcan Keeper of Donkey Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 13,803	Kenny, you didn't answer the original question... scootersize or grampsize, and why?! OEM needle or aftermarket needle, and why?! __________________ Jeff - Ottawa, Ontario '99 Vulcan 800 Classic I WAS THERE! Day of Donkey August 8, 2009 Kansas March '09 M-o-M

02-07-2009	#1200 (permalink)
cosmicsclassic JUST WANT TO CRUZ BTK Expert Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Severn,MD Posts: 777	HEY JEFF, I'M NOT MERCURY, BUT I GRAMPSIZED MY AIR CLEANER, EASYER TO DO, I LIKED NOT SEEING THE AIR FLITER AND KEEPING RAIN OUT, BUT MAINLY I LIKED THE OEM LOOK. LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT BREATHS GOOD, CUT OUT IN THE FRONT ACTS LIKE A SCOOP, BUT NOT TO NOTICABLE TO OEM LOOK. I LIKED THE S&S TEARDROP AIR CLEANER BUT I'M NOT SPENDING $200- $300 ON ANY AIR CLEANER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WOLF MEANS ABOUT OEM NEEDLE FITMENT, I HAVE A COBRA JET ADJUSTABLE, SEEMS TO WORK FINE, BUT I DID READ (AND do) ABOUT NEEDLE BOUNCE, NEEDLE FITS LOOSELY IN SLIDE, BUT IS SOLVED BY PUTTING A WASHER ONTOP OF C-CILP TO TAKE UP SLACK, C-CLIP ALONE IS NOT AS THICK AS OEM'S HEAD. I LIKE THE ADJUSTABLY OF THE AFTERMARKET NEEDLE, MANY HERE RUN THE C-CLIP IN 2ND GROOVE, I FOUND MY BIKE RUNS BETTER WITH A WASHER UNDER C-CLIP ALSO, ALSO HELP TIGHTEN AGAINST BOUNCE. I GUESS YOU COULD SHIM THE OEM NEEDLE, I'VE NEVER TRIED. HOPE THIS HELPS, COS

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