any mean streaks with big bore kit?

farlz · 05-16-2005

Has anyone put a muzzy's big bore kit in their 1500? Just wondering if there are any issues or problems experienced with this setup? I just did mine and am kinda disappointed in the power increase experienced. Anybody else feel this way.

btuman · 05-16-2005

What did the kit include? I am guessing pistons, rings, maybe wrist pins. Did you get the cam? I have been curious on the performance increase as well. My guess is that to see a real increase, the heads are going to have to be ported or flowed as they call it now.

farlz · 05-16-2005

The kit included high compression pistons, rings, wrist pins. Yes the cams were changed and I had the heads done by Guy Mobbley, formerly from Sherms.

Sledder · 05-16-2005

How much bigger was the bore? Were they the 792 grind cams from web cams?

You may not be getting the correct fuel amounts (need custom pc3 program) to get the most from the porting/cams??

..just curious.

Thunder manufacturing has done a lot of custom work on bb meanies (they did it on their own in house bike),and have some custom fuel curves,etc for the pc 111 and others.

tdaugharty · 05-16-2005

I wish they offered a kit like this for the 1600. More, More

Crue · 05-16-2005

How much was the kit. I think the best way to get the most performance from your Meanie would be with a Mr. Turbo. One of those will get you up and over V2k perfomance and without the extra weight.

Phatboy · 05-17-2005

Wouldn't NOS be so much easier though

jnk · 05-18-2005

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Originally Posted by tdaugharty

I wish they offered a kit like this for the 1600. More, More

the kit thunder mfg. or muzzy offer for the 1500 mean streak is 1570cc which is a bit larger than the stock 1600 which is 1553 i think also they are 10:1 pistons instead of the stock9:1 so it is a slight increase thunder has hp and torque curves to look at on their sight

RED'05 MEANIE · 05-18-2005

ok, so if you do all that and the compression goes to 10:1 how does that effect your redline ??

tdaugharty · 05-18-2005

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Originally Posted by RED'05 MEANIE

ok, so if you do all that and the compression goes to 10:1 how does that effect your redline ??

Gearing is gearing so I'd expect it would just redline much faster

Crue · 05-18-2005

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Originally Posted by Phatboy

Wouldn't NOS be so much easier though

Man I would love to get nos on my MS. I have never experienced a shot of nos in any vehicle though and the thought of hitting that button is very exciting/scary. A nice pair of polished bottles would certainly add to the look of the down tubes, or maybe they would look better on the fender struts. Hmmm.

Phatboy · 05-19-2005

I was in North Carolina asking Lee Sherts of Lee Performance about engine mods for the 1600 and he recommended NOS. This guy does some incredible work on sportbikes including some 200 mph+ ones. I've been thinking about taking him up on it. Once I have my hardbags installed I'll have a great place to mount a bottle =P

jnk · 05-19-2005

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Originally Posted by RED'05 MEANIE

ok, so if you do all that and the compression goes to 10:1 how does that effect your redline ??

i am not sure but if you call thunder mfg. or muzzy they could answer that i would like to do the mod. but not an option at this point maybe this winter

*ispeed77* · 05-20-2005

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Originally Posted by Crue

How much was the kit. I think the best way to get the most performance from your Meanie would be with a Mr. Turbo. One of those will get you up and over V2k perfomance and without the extra weight.

i saw one for the Nomad on Thunder's site and the kit was about $1000 plus whatever the machine work would cost. for the cost, the power numbers that they were showing were pretty impressive, but i was leary so i didn't do it. if the turbo wasn't so much, that would be the route i would go. the thing with the big bore is you start running into the water jets and reliability becomes an issue. that is the only reason i did not do anything to the Nomad, reliability is too important, especially when i am going on a 5000 mile plus trip.

**2WheelFun** · 05-20-2005

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Originally Posted by ispeed77

i saw one for the Nomad on Thunder's site and the kit was about $1000 plus whatever the machine work would cost. for the cost, the power numbers that they were showing were pretty impressive, but i was leary so i didn't do it. if the turbo wasn't so much, that would be the route i would go. the thing with the big bore is you start running into the water jets and reliability becomes an issue. that is the only reason i did not do anything to the Nomad, reliability is too important, especially when i am going on a 5000 mile plus trip.

And therein lies the entire issue! Good decision David!

*ispeed77* · 05-22-2005

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Originally Posted by whistle clean

And therein lies the entire issue! Good decision David!

thanks ! my wallet agrees with you !

aspet · 07-19-2005

Hi , can you tell me what compression the Muzzy kit takes the MS-VN1500 engine up to ?? thanks i have heard up to a 12:1 !! im not sure

thanks

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farlz Finally Got Into First Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Okotoks, Alberta Posts: 65	any mean streaks with big bore kit? Has anyone put a muzzy's big bore kit in their 1500? Just wondering if there are any issues or problems experienced with this setup? I just did mine and am kinda disappointed in the power increase experienced. Anybody else feel this way.

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Sledder Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NS Canada Posts: 1,222	How much bigger was the bore? Were they the 792 grind cams from web cams? You may not be getting the correct fuel amounts (need custom pc3 program) to get the most from the porting/cams?? ..just curious. Thunder manufacturing has done a lot of custom work on bb meanies (they did it on their own in house bike),and have some custom fuel curves,etc for the pc 111 and others. __________________ 04 MS 1640 Thunder 100 in kit/cams Race ported heads by "dynoray" Thunder air V&H Propipe PC3

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btuman Still On The Kickstand Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 25	What did the kit include? I am guessing pistons, rings, maybe wrist pins. Did you get the cam? I have been curious on the performance increase as well. My guess is that to see a real increase, the heads are going to have to be ported or flowed as they call it now.

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farlz Finally Got Into First Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Okotoks, Alberta Posts: 65	The kit included high compression pistons, rings, wrist pins. Yes the cams were changed and I had the heads done by Guy Mobbley, formerly from Sherms.

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RED'05 MEANIE Finally Got Into First Gear BTK Beginner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 68	ok, so if you do all that and the compression goes to 10:1 how does that effect your redline ??

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Phatboy Rides a lazyboy on wheels BTK Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,564	I was in North Carolina asking Lee Sherts of Lee Performance about engine mods for the 1600 and he recommended NOS. This guy does some incredible work on sportbikes including some 200 mph+ ones. I've been thinking about taking him up on it. Once I have my hardbags installed I'll have a great place to mount a bottle =P __________________ Phatboy 04 1600 Classic Black 02 Dodge Cummins

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aspet Banned BTK Beginner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glendale, CA. Posts: 49	Whats Compression Hi , can you tell me what compression the Muzzy kit takes the MS-VN1500 engine up to ?? thanks i have heard up to a 12:1 !! im not sure thanks

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