Woops I did it again.....

[Tweek]

I thought the P1 required warmers. That was basically where I was going: no warmers.

One thing to watch out for it the change in profile if you go with the Bridgestone. Michelin and Pirelli both have a similar profile. I like the Pirellis.

As for the number of days I'll use them: two things: budget and riding style. I enter turns too slow and exit really fast and only use moderate amount of lean angle. This puts most of the stress on the center of the rear tire.

What I'll be working on Saturday and most of the winter will be entering turns faster. This will put more stree on the sides of the front tire.

The 2CTs I ran this year are now my street tires. The sides of the rear tire are toast, but the center still has some life. The front tire looks fine. but the rubber is grainy. These tires were used from February until October (about 8 track days + 1500 road miles).

The Pirellis will only see the track. We'll see how long they feel good for. As my pace increased I might have to back off of the 8 thing. Which stinks b/c that makes track days more expensive. I'd hate to have to buy a set of tires every month.

[NCDave]

No, according to the owner of Sportbike Track Time, the Power Ones don't require warmers and a pretty consistant. That may be only one of the variations of the model though. Look up Power One on the net and they have a site to help you select the "right" tire according to them.

it also happens to be the tires they sell at Sportbike Track Gear, and they are selling sets for $300. Not too bad a price from what I have found. That's the only reason I'd consider them because I don't want to go the warmer route.

someone also suggested Pirelli Diablo supercorsas. I just don't have any experience in the world of true sport tires to have any solid ideas of which way to go. That's why I figured I'm safe with what the owner is suggesting.

My cornering and exiting are BOTH slow, so I'm thinking about running a car tire!

[Tweek]

$300 a set is very good. I might have to give them a look see after the Corsas are done.

Go with what makes you feel good. I'm actually sorta interested in the Shinko. If they are letting go at lower speeds it might be a good way for me to get a gentle introduction in to drifting corners. Safer than the speed necassary to make a 2CT or Corsa slip. Just as long as the Skinko is gradual and consistent with its slip.

[NCDave]

I'm running the Shinko 005, which is a sport-tour tire. They make an 003 for sport riding, and also a soft-compound 003 as well. I'm not totally sure what the difference is between them, but they have a pretty good website describing their details.

The 005 would certainly make for an interesting track day!

[NCDave]

A couple pictures just before the get-off.....

I wasn't leading with my head enough.

[Tod]

Admit it...you were looking at the other guy's butt weren't you?

[messer00]

Great pictures !!!

As for your fall... You either grabbed a little too much throttle coming out of the turn OR that suspension adjustment had something to do with it. I'm far from an expect on the subject, but I personally think that's a pretty large varience between the front and rear. In that part of the turn, a lot of your body weight is over the front of the bike. If those forks compress to much, it makes the back end lighter and you lose traction. Add a slight throttle increase and you get a lowside. You heard the guy. He wanted 30 in both. There's a reason for that.

[NCDave]

I was running 30. I'm thinking of trying 28.

[messer00]

I was running 30. I'm thinking of trying 28.

It was the large varience between the front and rear that I was talking about. A couple of millimeters may not sound like much, but it's quite a lot in terms of suspension numbers.

[Tweek]

2:18.2! about .5 better than before.
Worked on getting in to the turns faster. In the past I've been getting 'good' times by braking hard and then launching back out hard (shift down to second and run it up to the red line). This time I left the bike in third. You can still get good acceleration but not that good.

I learned a few things doing this excercise. First: where you look is extremely important. doing a two step helps with this a lot. Looking at the right place helps slow things down and keeps you from feeling like you are going to run off the track.
The second lesson is: there just isnt any magic to this stuff. want to go fast? just do lots and lots of laps. Good thing I can get out on the track as much as I can: this is going to take a while.

[NCDave]

Yeah. I was explaining to a couple younger guys today about track riding. It gets easier the more laps you do because you get more and more familiar with each of the turns. Sounds like you had fun! I can read the excitement in your post!

[V2K_CCTX]

hey Dave...thought this was a brittney spears fan thread by the title

[NCDave]

Gee...I wish I had a good comeback for that.

[NCDave]

I noticed last night that my front fender looks tweeked and not straight on the bike. I'm going to have to take the front end apart to make sure it's ok. I hope I didn't bend anything else.

[V2K_CCTX]

bet brittany could get it straightened out

[NCDave]

even bald she could probably accomplish that!

[fastpakr]

Ten years ago she could have straightened it out. Too sketchy now.