quick question

88250F2 · 12-17-2006

long story real short....

i dont trust that escs thing on my 88 600r ninja

any other newer forks that will fit?

sorry if this is over asked.

SlowNinja · 12-17-2006

My '97 doesn't have that system on it. Should be the same size forks. Just look for parts off a newer bike.

darkhorse85 · 12-18-2006

what does escs do? er, what is it supposed to do?

SlowNinja · 12-18-2006

I forget, is that the odd little device located on the front forks? If so, it's just an anti-dive system. If that's not it, then nevermind.....

darkhorse85 · 12-18-2006

ah ha, stupid me didnt search before i replied, but ya.

escs = anti dive. It has three settings. 1 being the softest. 3 stiffest.
electronic stability control system.
neato. mine seems to be in good working order.
i can tell because when the bike is off, the front suspension is very soft. It's also pretty soft when just sitting idling. When i pull the front brake and press, however, the fork is stiff as hell.

SlowNinja · 12-22-2006

I've read of these systems failing over time, seizing up while activated and making the front end into a pogo stick....... As I mentioned before the forks off any newer model (89+) 600R should fit, as they are essentially the same bike. Though I've also read about people using CBR or Gixxer forks and triples as an upgrade.......

JuniperBug · 12-22-2006

ESCS = Electronic SUSPENSION Control System

I know that the old manual ones from 85-87 were known to seize, causing the fork to be permanently stiff, but I've never heard of the electronic ones doing that. When my electronic one failed, it just meant I didn't have the anti-dive function anymore - just like the newer bikes that weren't equipped with it. Without the functioning anti-dive, the bike behaved the same under normal riding, and even worse under braking, although maybe new, stiffer springs and/or heavier oil would have been the solution for that. I don't know if the newer, non-anti-dive bikes have different springs than the old bikes.

SlowNinja · 12-22-2006

How long was the electronic ESCS put on the 600Rs..... My '97 doesn't have it, so I'm assuming it was dropped a couple years after the manual version? I can't find info on this system anywhere.

JuniperBug · 12-23-2006

The first generation Ninja 600R (from '85-'87, aka ZX600A) had the mechanical setup. For '88, the then new ZX600C got an electronic one along with a myriad of other updates. I don't know offhand when exactly the anti-dive was dropped, but it was definitely after the ZX-6 took its thrown as Kawasaki's premier 600. If I had to guess, I'd say somewhere around '93, but don't quote me on that.

12-17-2006	#1 (permalink)
88250F2 NinjaCrazy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 37	quick question long story real short.... i dont trust that escs thing on my 88 600r ninja any other newer forks that will fit? sorry if this is over asked. __________________ Mine: 88 Kawasaki Ninja 600r (ZX600c) and 1992 ZX-6 (600D) Hers: 88 Kawasaki Ninja 250

12-18-2006	#5 (permalink)
darkhorse85 Still On The Kickstand Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 35	ah ha, stupid me didnt search before i replied, but ya. escs = anti dive. It has three settings. 1 being the softest. 3 stiffest. electronic stability control system. neato. mine seems to be in good working order. i can tell because when the bike is off, the front suspension is very soft. It's also pretty soft when just sitting idling. When i pull the front brake and press, however, the fork is stiff as hell. Last edited by darkhorse85 : 12-18-2006 at 10:26 AM.

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12-17-2006	#2 (permalink)
SlowNinja Clutch Cadet BTK Expert Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 358	My '97 doesn't have that system on it. Should be the same size forks. Just look for parts off a newer bike.

12-18-2006	#3 (permalink)
darkhorse85 Still On The Kickstand Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 35	what does escs do? er, what is it supposed to do?

12-18-2006	#4 (permalink)
SlowNinja Clutch Cadet BTK Expert Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 358	I forget, is that the odd little device located on the front forks? If so, it's just an anti-dive system. If that's not it, then nevermind.....

12-22-2006	#6 (permalink)
SlowNinja Clutch Cadet BTK Expert Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 358	I've read of these systems failing over time, seizing up while activated and making the front end into a pogo stick....... As I mentioned before the forks off any newer model (89+) 600R should fit, as they are essentially the same bike. Though I've also read about people using CBR or Gixxer forks and triples as an upgrade.......

12-22-2006	#7 (permalink)
JuniperBug Turtle Wax Taster BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	ESCS = Electronic SUSPENSION Control System I know that the old manual ones from 85-87 were known to seize, causing the fork to be permanently stiff, but I've never heard of the electronic ones doing that. When my electronic one failed, it just meant I didn't have the anti-dive function anymore - just like the newer bikes that weren't equipped with it. Without the functioning anti-dive, the bike behaved the same under normal riding, and even worse under braking, although maybe new, stiffer springs and/or heavier oil would have been the solution for that. I don't know if the newer, non-anti-dive bikes have different springs than the old bikes.

12-22-2006	#8 (permalink)
SlowNinja Clutch Cadet BTK Expert Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 358	How long was the electronic ESCS put on the 600Rs..... My '97 doesn't have it, so I'm assuming it was dropped a couple years after the manual version? I can't find info on this system anywhere.

12-23-2006	#9 (permalink)
JuniperBug Turtle Wax Taster BTK Intermediate Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	The first generation Ninja 600R (from '85-'87, aka ZX600A) had the mechanical setup. For '88, the then new ZX600C got an electronic one along with a myriad of other updates. I don't know offhand when exactly the anti-dive was dropped, but it was definitely after the ZX-6 took its thrown as Kawasaki's premier 600. If I had to guess, I'd say somewhere around '93, but don't quote me on that.

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