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Old 11-02-2007   #1 (permalink)
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So.. As some of you guys know.. My family and i had some serious issues with me getting a street bike.. I love and respect them too much to go agasint their wishes while im still under their roof and still at a generally young age ( 22).
Until then i will feed my need for my biking urge and perhaps look into Dirt Biking.. You guys know of any good bikes to start off with? I just want to have fun in some dirt to start.. don't want anything too serious.

Mb rent a snowmobile once snow hits!

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Maybe a yamaha ttr250? I rode one around for a day, Its pretty tame and easy to ride, very easy to hill climb with. They also make a 450(I think).
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What about a used dual sport dirtbike?
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If you use your own money, I don't see how they can tell you what you're not allowed to buy.
Trust me.. i have the money and everything to be able to buy the bike..
But when y our mom crys into your arms telling you, you will die on the bike... its hard to go against tears..
It's very very frustrating.
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If you use your own money, I don't see how they can tell you what you're not allowed to buy.
He lives under his parents' roof. His parents don't have to let him live with them anymore, they do it because they care for/love him. The trade-off for living with your parents when you're an adult (age-wise) is that you follow their rules. Trust me, if Blank was living in his own place, his father would respect his decision (even if he hates it) and his mother will still cry but there's nothing that she would be able to about it.

On another note Blank, I really do feel for you and understand what you're going through. When I turned 18 my mother said that if I get a bike, she would "write me out of the will" and never help me financially. Well, that really left impression because I didn't get my bike 'til twenty-one (count them...21!) years later. At 39 I finally realized that I wasn't financially depending on them anymore (hadn't been for over a decade) and that I could really could make my own deicions (hey, what can I say...some things take a really long time for me to figure out). So I got my 500R and have been loving it for the past year and-a-half.

I have no regrets about not riding through my 20's or most of my 30's because I know that my mom was right, I would've killed myself on a bike if I would've gotten it one day sooner than I did (the way she said I would). So in part, I do give my mom credit for helping me from killing myself on a bike. I'm not saying that you're anything like me when I was your age, but hey...youth is youth. I also tell myself that Neil Peart didn't start riding 'til he was 41, so I have a couple years on him time-wise though I'll never get to ride as much as he has in my life time.

Yeah, getting a dirt bike would be fun...or maybe get DualSport so that you can ride your bike to the dirt instead of trailering it if you're close to some mountains.
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He lives under his parents' roof. His parents don't have to let him live with them anymore, they do it because they care for/love him. The trade-off for living with your parents when you're an adult (age-wise) is that you follow their rules. Trust me, if Blank was living in his own place, his father would respect his decision (even if he hates it) and his mother will still cry but there's nothing that she would be able to about it.

On another note Blank, I really do feel for you and understand what you're going through. When I turned 18 my mother said that if I get a bike, she would "write me out of the will" and never help me financially. Well, that really left impression because I didn't get my bike 'til twenty-one (count them...21!) years later. At 39 I finally realized that I wasn't financially depending on them anymore (hadn't been for over a decade) and that I could really could make my own deicions (hey, what can I say...some things take a really long time for me to figure out). So I got my 500R and have been loving it for the past year and-a-half.

I have no regrets about not riding through my 20's or most of my 30's because I know that my mom was right, I would've killed myself on a bike if I would've gotten it one day sooner than I did (the way she said I would). So in part, I do give my mom credit for helping me from killing myself on a bike. I'm not saying that you're anything like me when I was your age, but hey...youth is youth. I also tell myself that Neil Peart didn't start riding 'til he was 41, so I have a couple years on him time-wise though I'll never get to ride as much as he has in my life time.

Yeah, getting a dirt bike would be fun...or maybe get DualSport so that you can ride your bike to the dirt instead of trailering it if you're close to some mountains.
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You're always full of good advice.. I got the bike bug.. i WILL get it.. it just depends on where and when, thats all.. I need to respect my family and respect myself for now..
i was REALLY thinking about a dual sport.. Have any in mind? Some websites can guide you teh wrong way..either be TOO small.. or TOO big..
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Take the MSF course. Buy all the gear and RIDE SAFE. People die in their sleep. People die in automobile accidents. People die in Iraq. Tell her, "We're all going to die someday, but not on a bike"!
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I always wanted a bike but my parents were very against it and would say "not while you're under our roof". Then when I was 19 I moved in with my girlfriend for a year while going to community college. Just before I turned 20 I decided to take the MSF course and get myself a bike. I did move back into my parents house for the summer before leaving again for a University. They have seen that I was responsible and took the course and ride safe so they have come to accept it. My dad wasn't so worried about me riding )he used to have a bike) as he was worried about me getting myself into financial troubles though.

Now I am working on convinceing my dad to get a bike again. It would be nice to be able to go out for rides with him sometime.
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Did you talk to them about getting any type of cruiser? They may be the type seeing the young testostrone driven sportbikers on the street doing stupid crap. Your dad may agree to you getting a cruiser. Take him with you to a MSF and get him licensed up. He may your best option. Dads do have the final say so. But we don't always use it so we can let the house stay quiet.
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Did you talk to them about getting any type of cruiser? They may be the type seeing the young testostrone driven sportbikers on the street doing stupid crap. Your dad may agree to you getting a cruiser. Take him with you to a MSF and get him licensed up. He may your best option. Dads do have the final say so. But we don't always use it so we can let the house stay quiet.
I took the MSF class.. and my main problem isn't that my rents don't trust me.. It's that they don't trust others out on the road.. And that's a battle you can't win.
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I got the bike bug.. i WILL get it.. it just depends on where and when, thats all.. I need to respect my family and respect myself for now..
It's admirable that a new motorcycle enthusiast is respecting the wishes of the family--it shows that they've done a good job of raising you, at least in this regard.

Street riding is a lot of fun, but it really does put you at higher risk of injury the whole time you're out there. Doing a Google News search on "motorcycle fatality" for the past thirty days should confirm that. Or you could take a look at RippinKitten's blog post with pictures of the aftermath of her hubby's motorcycle accident. It's not always about how much restraint or skill the rider has, sometimes stuff happens, and when it does, you're usually much better off in an enclosed vehicle with airbags and seatbelts.

I feel the same way as eidian; I don't regret waiting to get my bike until I'd gotten the speed demon out of my system. The temptation to crank the throttle open and tear arse all over the place would have been too great when I was younger.

Sure, the temptation is still there, but there is a lot more deliberation and situation analysis going on, with the result being that I don't exceed posted speed limits by that much, especially if I'm riding unfamiliar roads. Even when I'm riding in familiar areas, I buy myself response time by keeping a lid on the speed--it's bad enough that motorists have a hard time seeing bikes without us making it worse by "popping out of nowhere."

Anyway, starting out by riding a dirtbike should help when you start club racing and you're used to sliding the rear. It worked for John Hopkins and Colin Edwards (at least in World SBK).
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It's admirable that a new motorcycle enthusiast is respecting the wishes of the family--it shows that they've done a good job of raising you, at least in this regard.

Street riding is a lot of fun, but it really does put you at higher risk of injury the whole time you're out there. Doing a Google News search on "motorcycle fatality" for the past thirty days should confirm that. Or you could take a look at RippinKitten's blog post with pictures of the aftermath of her hubby's motorcycle accident. It's not always about how much restraint or skill the rider has, sometimes stuff happens, and when it does, you're usually much better off in an enclosed vehicle with airbags and seatbelts.

I feel the same way as eidian; I don't regret waiting to get my bike until I'd gotten the speed demon out of my system. The temptation to crank the throttle open and tear arse all over the place would have been too great when I was younger.

Sure, the temptation is still there, but there is a lot more deliberation and situation analysis going on, with the result being that I don't exceed posted speed limits by that much, especially if I'm riding unfamiliar roads. Even when I'm riding in familiar areas, I buy myself response time by keeping a lid on the speed--it's bad enough that motorists have a hard time seeing bikes without us making it worse by "popping out of nowhere."

Anyway, starting out by riding a dirtbike should help when you start club racing and you're used to sliding the rear. It worked for John Hopkins and Colin Edwards (at least in World SBK).
Hey thanks for the awesome info!
I'm going to check out a 4 stroke Yamaha TTR-250.. Gonna be road and trail ready i hope.
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My parents and my whole family was against me getting a supersport. They thought it was way too fast and I would die. hmm 2 years later and I'm still alive. The thing is supersport bikes should only be driven be people who are smart, defensive and very aware driver. There are a lot of kids out there that shouldn't be driving those kinds of machines and in the end they end up dead.

Only 1 person in the world can tell you that what kind of bike you can handle and that's you. If you think you're good enough to ride this kind of bike, then prove your parents wrong. If not, do the right thing and buy a bike with a lot less power. If you think you can handle a machine that can go from 0-60 in 3sec then I would defiantly buy a 600 supersport. If not, buy like a 500r or an old cruiser.
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My parents and my whole family was against me getting a supersport. They thought it was way too fast and I would die. hmm 2 years later and I'm still alive. The thing is supersport bikes should only be driven be people who are smart, defensive and very aware driver. There are a lot of kids out there that shouldn't be driving those kinds of machines and in the end they end up dead.

Only 1 person in the world can tell you that what kind of bike you can handle and that's you. If you think you're good enough to ride this kind of bike, then prove your parents wrong. If not, do the right thing and buy a bike with a lot less power. If you think you can handle a machine that can go from 0-60 in 3sec then I would defiantly buy a 600 supersport. If not, buy like a 500r or an old cruiser.
I AM responseable and mature to be able to ride a bike.. My family doesn't trust the people around me, not me.. So it's hard to make a case against that and show them that i won't die..
But i fig, right now just isn't the right time and place in my life for a street bike.. So perhaps getting a dirt bike will ease them into the world of bikes. So when i get one in a few years they won't be flabbergasted.
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Maybe i'm a horrible son.. but i'm still taking the MSF course and getting a bike (if I like riding) in a month. I have begged my parents since I was 15 to let me get a bike. Now, they finally have given up and I am able to get one at age 17. I'm doing what I want in my life, not theirs. And even though I might kill myself, it's a risk i'm willing to take. Can't live life always safe.
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