Stock ZZR600 tires

Daren · 08-28-2008

Hey guys--

I still have the stock tires on my ZZR after about 3000 miles. They still look in great shape, but I'm thinking about switching them out for a different tire. When I'm cornering hard it feels like my front tire is slipping. Am I just a newbie who doesn't know how to trust my tires? Or are the stock tires just not that great.

I have 3000 on this bike, and put about 9000 on my 500r before upgrading. I never rode the 500 too hard, but drug the pegs every once in a while and never felt like the tires were going to slip on me...

I think they are Dunlop D207s.

Edit: I also want to emphasize further that it's the FRONT tire that feels like it's slipping a little. Can I just replace the front tire? Or should I just go for both if I'm going to change them out.

Also, both front and rear are inflated to the recommended pressure.

JasonFMHS · 08-28-2008

Stock tires are not that great... they should work fine... but are not meant for hard cornering.

ervins · 08-29-2008

Pirelli Rossos...Grippy and long wear for a 1000 so for a 600 you will see even more mileage.

JasonFMHS · 08-29-2008

I also run my tires a little under recommended.

ervins · 08-30-2008

Yes. I run my really soft...Wear is secondary to grip for me.

Daren · 08-30-2008

So to up the grip a bit I should run a lower pressure? What's still considered safe? Are we talking just a couple PSI below recommended or like 5+?

JasonFMHS · 08-31-2008

I would say about -2 or 3... i wouldn't go + anything.

xeon · 08-31-2008

You could drop the pressure in the front a few lbs. and see how you like it. Have you ever setup your suspension? I keep a table with my suspension settings and tire pressures that I record my impressions. Getting your suspension and tire pressures dialed in make a real difference in handling. It is an interesting exercise.

In terms of safe... I know some guys who run in the teens, but they're playing in parking lots doing stunts. Anyway, you can drop a few pounds and your tire isn't coming off of your rim.

Falx250r · 09-01-2008

Those stockers are just horrible horrible horrible.

Get you some real tires, and make them match. As far as what tire is right for you, I would say talk to someone you trust locally, (shop) and explain your needs.

sebastian1000 · 09-01-2008

Listen to ervins I would say...the rossos are reportedly a great tire.

bretsk2500 · 09-01-2008

I just got Pirrelli Diablo Corsa III's put on my ZZR..... OMFG what a difference!!!!!!!! The feel is so much improved that it really is beyond words. if you look online, you can find a set of them for about $300.

Daren · 09-01-2008

Thanks for all the tips guys! This is exactly why I love this forum so much.

08-28-2008	#1 (permalink)
Daren Turtle Wax Taster BTK Intermediate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 175	Stock ZZR600 tires Hey guys-- I still have the stock tires on my ZZR after about 3000 miles. They still look in great shape, but I'm thinking about switching them out for a different tire. When I'm cornering hard it feels like my front tire is slipping. Am I just a newbie who doesn't know how to trust my tires? Or are the stock tires just not that great. I have 3000 on this bike, and put about 9000 on my 500r before upgrading. I never rode the 500 too hard, but drug the pegs every once in a while and never felt like the tires were going to slip on me... I think they are Dunlop D207s. Edit: I also want to emphasize further that it's the FRONT tire that feels like it's slipping a little. Can I just replace the front tire? Or should I just go for both if I'm going to change them out. Also, both front and rear are inflated to the recommended pressure. Last edited by Daren : 08-28-2008 at 11:01 PM.

08-28-2008	#2 (permalink)
JasonFMHS Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,333	Stock tires are not that great... they should work fine... but are not meant for hard cornering. __________________ 01' ZX-6r

08-29-2008	#3 (permalink)
ervins MOM Sept 2006 Forum Supporter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 11,826	Pirelli Rossos...Grippy and long wear for a 1000 so for a 600 you will see even more mileage. __________________ Black 2006 ZX-10R http://cache.www.gametracker.com/ser...0/b_560x95.png

08-29-2008	#4 (permalink)
JasonFMHS Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,333	I also run my tires a little under recommended. __________________ 01' ZX-6r

08-30-2008	#5 (permalink)
ervins MOM Sept 2006 Forum Supporter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 11,826	Yes. I run my really soft...Wear is secondary to grip for me. __________________ Black 2006 ZX-10R http://cache.www.gametracker.com/ser...0/b_560x95.png

08-30-2008	#6 (permalink)
Daren Turtle Wax Taster BTK Intermediate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 175	So to up the grip a bit I should run a lower pressure? What's still considered safe? Are we talking just a couple PSI below recommended or like 5+?

08-31-2008	#7 (permalink)
JasonFMHS Forum Supporter Forum Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,333	I would say about -2 or 3... i wouldn't go + anything. __________________ 01' ZX-6r

08-31-2008	#8 (permalink)
xeon Wants better weather! BTK Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Culpeper, VA Posts: 874	You could drop the pressure in the front a few lbs. and see how you like it. Have you ever setup your suspension? I keep a table with my suspension settings and tire pressures that I record my impressions. Getting your suspension and tire pressures dialed in make a real difference in handling. It is an interesting exercise. In terms of safe... I know some guys who run in the teens, but they're playing in parking lots doing stunts. Anyway, you can drop a few pounds and your tire isn't coming off of your rim. __________________ Black '06 Ninja 250R Red-n-Silver '99 YZF600R

09-01-2008	#9 (permalink)
Falx250r Way Too Much Free Time BTK Expert Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jefferson City, MO Posts: 1,106	Those stockers are just horrible horrible horrible. Get you some real tires, and make them match. As far as what tire is right for you, I would say talk to someone you trust locally, (shop) and explain your needs. __________________ 07 ZZR600 -1,+2 BMC +4 FactoryPro Advancer Hotbodies undertail w/LED tail www.midmoriders.com

09-01-2008	#10 (permalink)
sebastian1000 Needs A Real Job BTK Expert Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,960	Listen to ervins I would say...the rossos are reportedly a great tire.

09-01-2008	#11 (permalink)
bretsk2500 '07 ZZR600 Forum Supporter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sanford, Maine Posts: 1,410	I just got Pirrelli Diablo Corsa III's put on my ZZR..... OMFG what a difference!!!!!!!! The feel is so much improved that it really is beyond words. if you look online, you can find a set of them for about $300. __________________ '07 ZZR600 Fire Red 11.957@117 Jardine RT1 Factory Pro +4 rotor Renthal +2

09-01-2008	#12 (permalink)
Daren Turtle Wax Taster BTK Intermediate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 175	Thanks for all the tips guys! This is exactly why I love this forum so much.

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