600cc - 900cc

[w1ngzer0]

Hmm, did you check out kawasaki's ZZR600? It's a mix of both touring and sportbike. =P

On a side note, nice sn, i am a fan of gundamW.

But, agian at what point do you say " i am ready for a 600"?

yep, im hoping to make an actual gundam simulator based off the fast action of GundamW. eather Ps 4 or 5. Whatever is the first playstation to use a a super computer or organic computer.

[itjstagame]

Hey all, I realize this thread is for newer 600ccs, but. I just bought a really nice '88 Ninja 600R. 10k miles and jetted/piped.

First, reply to the above. I've only been out a couple times, but... I figured out how to operate the bike in 1/2 hour in a parking lot. This is my first bike and I'm still very new but... I'm not sure what there's really to 'get ready' for. It's a little heavier, you definately feel that going slow, but you have to be going VERY slow, and other than that, most 600s the power is very smooth, just don't use the throttle like a wild man and it will cruise like a normal bike.

Granted mine is older and carbed and probably only getting 95HP even jetted and piped and not the 125HP most 600s get now. But if I drive it up to 6-7k and not higher you can use it like a normal bike. Personally I'm loving it, especially the pull from 8k-11k, it's like a turbo ;p.


Anway,

I'm looking to buy new tires and was wondering about plus sizing. This thing comes with 16" rims, originally asking for 130/90 in the rear! I was wondering if I found a set of 17"s, is there any consideration to how big/wide will fit on my bike? What about mounting? I know nothing about bikes and how the wheels even hook to them, it seems concievable that could differ wildy.

Any suggestions on what should fit and which models/owners I should bug would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris

[ervins]

Welcome aboard! It is good you respect your ride early. As I stated it is not the bike that causes problems but the rider. Be safe, gear up, and take that MSF. Take care.

[itjstagame]

Ok, so now the question is, how do wheels fit width wise and are there different hubs/mounting patterns to worry about. I found two different sets, one set from a Kawasaki ZX10 1988-90 and the other from a 93 Kawasaki ZX-7R.

I really like the looks of the ZX-7Rs, especially if I can fit power pilots on it. And for $100, that seems cheap enough to allow for the better tires. Maybe I'm just being obsessed :p.

Chris

[JuniperBug]

The axle, brake rotor, and sprocket mountings are all a little different from bike to bike. There aren't very many models - at least that I know of - that can have the wheels interchanged. I've never heard of any other wheel working on the 600R. Maybe it's possible, but it's not commonly done, unfortunately. It would be nice to have a way to get modern rubber on the old 600. For now, your best bet is to stick with a performance-oriented X-ply sport touring tire, 110/90 in the front and 130/90 in the rear. You can fit wider tires on there, but you won't like the result. I speak from experience. There's a current thread about what tires to put on these bikes that I suggest you take a look at.

As for the questions about "getting ready" for a 600: almost anyone can learn to control a 600 or even a 1000 at slow speeds. It's controlling it at the speeds and acceleration that it's capable of where you'll run into trouble. Running at WOT in a straight line is something a monkey can do, but if an unexpected curve or obstacle shows up, it's easy to suddenly find yourself in over your head. Better to learn to push a slow bike first, especially in the curves. As with anything, I believe in starting from the basics and working my way up. You learn how to ride WELL much faster and more safely if you start on a less powerful bike.

[w1ngzer0]

thats all i needed to hear . Thanks Juniper

[BaileyVance]

Hi, I just started up my 2005 ZX6R after a winter in the garage. While idling, there is a clicking noise coming from under the passenger seat. The higher I rev the engine, the faster the clicking. The clicking sounds like a short or something. Anyone ever see this before???

Thanks

[itjstagame]

Thanks, yeah I realize it'd be a very unique thing. That's why I asked it anyone had tried it. For now I'm just going to try the 16" sport demons, but when they wear out (which sounds like it won't take long), maybe I'll 'play' with wheel fitment. I was thinking of pretty much a full conversion from a new Ninja. I know it doesn't make much sense but the parts I'd need to attempt it can be found cheaply and I'm bored and if it doesn't work oh well.

I just think that this bike in Power Pilots or Sportec 3s would be amazing.

Thanks for the insight,
Chris

[Gaulois]

I used to ride cruisers, then bought an 02 ZX9R. This was the best bike I ever
had. I bought the zx9r because I thought I will be using it on long trips, which never hapens. I was mainly riding to work and around town on weekends.
I had to sell it in 04. Now I am looking at the ZZR600. Would I get bored with it for the use I have? I forgot to mention that I liked to push the ZX9 up to 160 miles/hour. But I wont expect pushing the ZZR that much. I am asking Calamaichris or anyone, because he has both.
Thanks

[qiknes]

hey, this is my first time ever doing this and the only way i figured out how to post a message is through a reply.. I noticed that sometimes when i shift into 2nd gear and go to romp on it, it seems liek the gear doesnt catch. the rpm's go up but the bike doesnt accelerate. then other times it doesnt mess up at all. if anyone has any ideas of whats wrong please let me know

thanks
ryan

Sounds to me like you are just not lifting all the way up on the shifter and getting caught between 1st and 2nd. Its not that uncommon, it happens. I have noticed that if you dont use the clutch during upshifts this pretty much doesnt happen.

[qiknes]

Hi, I just started up my 2005 ZX6R after a winter in the garage. While idling, there is a clicking noise coming from under the passenger seat. The higher I rev the engine, the faster the clicking. The clicking sounds like a short or something. Anyone ever see this before???

Thanks

Are you sure its under the seat? The only ticking I have ever heard from Kawi is the valve chatter. They are well known for it. If it gets pretty loud then you most likely need a valve adjustment. If your sure its under the seat take the seat off and fire it up and see if you can track it down. I dont know of anything that would be back there besides the wiring for rear lighting.

[qiknes]

I used to ride cruisers, then bought an 02 ZX9R. This was the best bike I ever
had. I bought the zx9r because I thought I will be using it on long trips, which never hapens. I was mainly riding to work and around town on weekends.
I had to sell it in 04. Now I am looking at the ZZR600. Would I get bored with it for the use I have? I forgot to mention that I liked to push the ZX9 up to 160 miles/hour. But I wont expect pushing the ZZR that much. I am asking Calamaichris or anyone, because he has both.
Thanks

I love mine! Sport riding and daily commuting you cant ask for anything better in my opinion.

[qiknes]

Got a question for 600 owners. At what point do you say " ok, time to buy a 600"? When im not working all the time i want to do some touring eventually on, yes; a sport bike. Not much of a touring bike kinda guy.

I am still learning on my 250r, probobly will be for a year or 2.

I rode a EX500 for 6 yrs before upgrading. Mostly due to money constraints. I suggest trying to upgrade to the 500 if you have the basics down. When you feel your skills are above the 250 go to the 500. Its a good little increase but nothing that will be a shock to you. I rode the 500 basically until I had the money and more importantly knew my skills were beyond the 500s capability. They are excellent bikes and can be gotten pretty reasonable. The jump from 500 to 600 is a pretty good jump as far as power. The important thing is if you go to the 600, remember to respect the bid power increase...its like going from a scooter (250) to a rocket! Always wear gear. I recommend the ZZR 600 when you do make the jump.

[Gaulois]

OK, I did some research on the ZZR600 and it is IDENTICAL to the 2000 ZX6R. I checked all the numbers from HP to torque to forks to brakes and finally to the design. It is EXACTLY the same bike. The ZZR gain a little bit of weight, and I will atribute that to some less exotic parts that make the bike sheaper and a bit heavier. And to back up my findings, here are some of those infos :
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mckaw/00zx6r.motml
http://sportrider.com/bikes/146_Weights_Measurements/
http://www.catfancy.com/mcn/model_eval.asp
http://jarle.eltelevest.no/Kawasaki/...c2000.htm#ZX6R

Take a look at those pictures :
http://jarle.eltelevest.no/Kawasaki/Year/2000/2000.htm

After finding out so much informations about the ZZR600, I know it is a very good bike and will be my next baby (if only I could take a test ride).

[Chillinmofo]

hey guys, im new to this forum and got a question. This will be my first bike purchase. Im looking into buying a zx6r 06, and was wondering if you guys have any suggestions on my purchase, this is the bike i really want and ive done alot of research on it and in bikes in general. Thanks

[ervins]

hey guys, im new to this forum and got a question. This will be my first bike purchase. Im looking into buying a zx6r 06, and was wondering if you guys have any suggestions on my purchase, this is the bike i really want and ive done alot of research on it and in bikes in general. Thanks

Like everyone will tell you, take the MSF class, get the best gear you can afford (don't skimp), and respect your bike...I have an 2003 636...My bike and the newer 636 has lots of power so be careful. However, if you respect your bike you will get a great ride out of it and rush that feels very very good. Good luck and when you get that bike, post up some pics.

[Always4Kawis]

To W1 and itjusta and other newer riders...the basics of starting/stopping/etc is not that big of deal; however the 2 biggest things to train for are emergency maneuvers and braking. As crazy as it sounds, practice both of these often. It'll pay you back in spades one day-trust me. Keeping in mind when you have a "panic" situation that your basic choices are to accelerate past it, go left/right, or brake, and you have to make this decision immediately (you have no time to think about it), you have to be prepared to the point where your instincts take over.
Also train yourself to ride defensively when you're in traffic. Learn how to use cars for interference when crossing intersections, how to position yourself in the lane to leave yourself an escape route, how to watch for "signals" from drivers and vehicles as to what they may do, etc. It'll do wonders for your confidence and enable you to become an excellent rider.

[ervins]

Agreed on braking and maneuvers. Today a neigbor pulled out without looking...I did not panic and just did what I learned at the MSF. Thankfully I was scanning ahead and saw he failed to look right. I honked him while he was in the middle of the street and gestured to lower the window. I yelled at him to watch out and forget I am an adult on a bike with gear...What if I were a kid on a bike...He applogized.

[littleguy88]

my friend has an 03 636 and it sounds awesome without the pipe

[ervins]

my friend has an 03 636 and it sounds awesome without the pipe

Yesssssssssss it does. However, I am doing it for looks and a bit more noise. Remember - loud saves lives. If they hear you coming it is a good thing. Though I do not necessarily want it tooo loud.