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firestorm34
Join Date: Sep 2008
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well i am new to posting things online but i thought that people should know about a problem with the new zx 10r i bought mine in july and i did not have any problems until yesterday when the when the bike rev to over10000 rpm by its self and stayed their of about 40seconds it almost bucked me. i was on my way to my local dealer for a service so luckly i was just around the corner.the bike did settle and went back to normal i went in and talked to the sales person and the tech and they both said that was definatly never heard of that happening before and the salesmen has 08 zx 10 to they said ride it home and we will call kaw in the a.m.so i tried to leave the bike started fine i pulled to a stop sign made right hand turn shifted into second gear and this thing took off like a bat out of hell poped the front wheel and would not slow down i had to hit the kill switch.i pulled over and tried to turn it off and back on when i started it back up in N it rev to over 10000 rpm by its self again and would not start correctly again so i pushed it back to the shop and let salemen and tech see what it was doing and both of them did not know what to say about it.so my bike in the shop i should hear back today and finD out what the problem is.They did say that they had another zx 10r came in totaled with 13 miles on it and the guy said the throttle stuck now I would take that with a grain of salt he was newbi but still it leaves me wondering if it stuck if OR it was rider error.well All i know is that i would consider myself a pretty good rider and boy did i have my hands full with this thing i can only guess what this would do to newbi but i have a pretty good idea considering that the newbi total his with 13 miles on it.
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Holy smokes. As if riding my bike isn't scary enough with everything working the way it's supposed to
I will be watching out for that for a while. On my first oil change, I had a problem with air in the system and the oil light showing I had no pressure. Had to bleed the whole system. Not a big deal, but makes one wonder. Hope my throttle never sticks like that. Anywhere above 6 grand that thing pulls like a freight train. Take care and let us know if there is a recall or warranty issue or anything we need to get checked out. I know there are several 08 10r owners on here. Thanks Robert
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If you think it's sticking stop riding it silly!
Get the dealership to inspect it asap. If you are capable remove tank etc and inspect the throttle cable for binding. Is that not a throttle by wire application? What does your manual suggest in this case? Is your glove or jacket interfearing with the throttle?
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firestorm34
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well eric i am not some kind of dumb *** i know when not to ride.also i know that something is very wrong with my bike.and i am able to work on the bike but why would i when it is only 3 months old it has a warranty.or maybe you should buy an 08 zx-10r then you can tell what to do with mine.but i am sure you are happy with your bike.this not my first bike here a list of street bikes that i owned 89 virago 750,96 fzr6,95 zx-7r,01 984 firebolt,01 buell blast,01 cbr 6,98 cbr 1100 blackbird,and the zx-10r thanks for you input and have nice day.and the answer to your question are yes,yes don't care and no
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Is your grips rubbing folding around the edge and keeping the throttle in a position...My last grips on my 10R were getting used and were all over the place and at one point it was rubbing on the bar ends.
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firestorm34
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no the grips are not rubbing the bike will do this in N with throttle returned all the way i am still waiting to hear back from the dealership where i bought it to find out what the real problem is i will post it as soon as i find out.this kind of thing on bike this powerful could really hurt someone if not kill them.i love my kaw but if they had any idea that something like this could happen they should have never released it
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Sounds like the electronic injection and "fly by wire" system must have some sort of issue. I assumed it was doing it with the throttle rolled to the closed position.
How many miles were on your bike when it started happening? I love my 10r, but you are right, this much power could mean somebody getting hurt badly if they weren't very good in a crisis. That sort of acceleration in first or second gear means 100mph in a few quick seconds. A question: When you pulled the clutch in, did it hit the limiter or did it stop around 10K? I am wondering if it is a system issue with the injection or if maybe the "traction control" system has a glitch. I can think of several things that might cause it. I am guessing you haven't added a power commander or anything like that or you wouldn't be taking it back to the dealer first. Keep me updated please so I will be well informed if I ever need to take mine in for something like this. Take care, Robert
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So you have had a bunch of bikes, me too. I know about you, but if "my" brand new ZX-10 was having such an issue it would be left at the dealership, end of story. Order a new TPS under warranty should be the course of action so a customer doesn't wreck with a faulty throttle., not send him down the road with the bike acting up like that. Keep your thumb over that killswitch. It's your choice not to inspect anything on your new bike but c'mon...don't you think this condition is a bit odd? Your bike should also have on board dianostics and a "tech" should be able to determin a faulty item in a short period of time. Did they do that for you yet? Good luck with the gremlins and the cursed bike and BTW find another dealership to buy bikes from 'cause if they send you down the road with a faulty throttle on a 3 month old Ninja they have issues and are the real dumb a__es. Actually, get them to open a work order and see if they change thier attitude. Papertrails are great to have.
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firestorm34
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well guys heres the update kaw corprorate said that this the frist time that they have learned about any problems like this with the zx-10.They took the bike apart today and pretty much checked everthing out.no sensor problems all vacum lines are hooked up correctly so monday they will hook up the laptop to it to check OBD for any codes and possiable problems with ecm or what ever you call it. this bike has 1300 miles on it and when i pulled the clutch in the rpms stayed wher they were and the throttle was total closed this sucks we have great weather for a ride and time is running out in ohio aNd my brand new bike is in mf shop.to me this is totaly unacceptable for a bike that cost as much as this SHOULDN'T even see a shop except for regular stuff you need done.i will let you know the outcome as soon i we figure it out i still love my zx-10r even though i tried to KILL ME
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No doubt,
I am amazed they broke the bike down before attaching the laptop. I just had the first service done which consisted of no more than an oil change really, and they ran the diagnostics on the bike to determine what was up with the oil pressure light. Took like 10 minutes and they knew everything they could from it. Still, I am interested to see what they find. If they tell you nothing is wrong and let you go with it without any repairs done, I would, at very least, make them change the ECM. Take care, Robert
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Wow, that is scary. I've found myself riding along and thinking about what might happen if the throttle stuck open on my bike. Just the thought gives me chills.
I'd surely be up the butt of the dealership that sold me the bike...no question. That could have easily gotten you killed.
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firestorm34
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I Have Though About Asking Kaw To Take The Bike Back.but I Really Do Like This Bike It's The Best Stock Bike That I Have Ever Had The Chance To Ride.except For The Seat Padding!!!!!!
And The Reason That They Took It Apart Before They CHECKED THE ECM Is That Kaw Told Them To Do That First To Check The Vacum Lines Throttle Cables,bodies,and The Overall Wireing And All Of The Sensors.AND IT NEVER GAVE ANY CODE LIGHTS And A Far As The Throttle Stick Goes Let's Just Say That You Can Bet That My Thumb Will Be Alot Closer From Now On!!!!!!!!!! Last edited by firestorm34 : 09-07-2008 at 11:42 AM. |
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You Type Funny.
Well if you are comfortable with that situation ride on then. I asked around at a forum back home and no issues with any of the ZX10 riders.
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No indicators and nothing showed in the lines or anything.
That's scary. So have they said they would do anything to it? I don't know how many brains are in the bike that are connected to the throttle, but I would like to think they would replace any that "might" be at fault. Good luck. For the record I just did 6 hours on mine and hit a little more mileage than yours and have had zero defects thus far. Take care, Robert
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Sounds exactly like what my manual said about A
AIR INTAKE - Air suction system, AIR CLEANER Don't allow any dust or foreign objects to enter in the air intake Can cause serious accident or make throttle stick...something with the throttle. Read the manual carefully. Something is wrong with that bike - It if happens again and you ram into someones car - I hope your insurnace covers the damage. Sounds like your air intake is clogged like a mofo or the mechanics are stupid and did a dirty job. i'M serious - Grab your zx10 manual that came with the bike - Not the service manual. But the normal one. Should be 200 pages long? or 100. Read it and see what i'm saying Those mechanics Should not be trusted. Take it to someone else Don't ride with the bike like that - Take it in for a second opinion - i would never ride it. Something happening like that just takes off is insane Last edited by ManhattanRider : 09-07-2008 at 11:18 PM. |
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firestorm34
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I know that it sounds very unlikely but never the less it is true.It really had a mind of its own.I talked to the dealership and KAW said that I am the first to have this kind of problem.This is real life and reguardless of was you can do on paper the bottom line is that all fuel, ignition,timeing,are controlled by the ECM so even with the throttle closed all the way if one of the sensors is not working correctly than it does not matter where the throttle cable is it can still dump fuel change ignition timeing.I should find out today the final answer about what the problem is!!
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firestorm34
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I am starting to get a little upset.The dealership ran OBD for codes with a laptop and no codes were found.so they had a few different people take it for a ride to try to get the bike to duplicate the problem. The guy who sold me the bike took it for a 20 min ride the tech took it twice.KAW said to keep the bike and ride it some more and if they can not get it to malfunction again they will send a rep out to check it out.at this point i really don't even want the mf thing all i know is that they better figure out what the problem is fast or they can just keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OH man sorry to hear that i was looking at getting the 09 but dont think so anymore. Your bike just punches out to 10 grand lol dam. Ok i give on this one i would say wear a full one piece leather suit. you also just did the motoman break in without even knowing it. Let me throw a dart at your issue so we may eliminate it. Do you have multipale personalities. Because these bikes do inspire aggressive behavior. Sometimes i find myself thinking twice after the fact. But all that aside i wouldn't ride it till it's all sorted out thats down right dangerous. By the way when it does rev to 10 grand how high does it lift the front ? Please take no offense i'm border line myself haha. hope it all works out
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