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Old 03-30-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can't change gear

Hey, I'm gutted.

The bikes a 2000 zx-6r j1 with just under 20k on it, and never had any problems with the box before. I have had the bike just over a year and completed 10k during this time, with regular servicing from me and the major service done by a reputable dealer.

After the mornings snow flurries the sun came out I decided to take the bike out. I rode out the bumpy lane and got out onto the main road and all was going well until I came to the first junction and found I couldn't engage first gear. Continuing down the road I could only select second and third. I pulled over and had a play with it by hand, still no joy.

I then road straight to the local motorcycle garage (I live 0.5mile away), can't look at it for two weeks. Over to another, as I pulled up out side the bike got down into first and then neutral. Can't look at it for three weeks. On the way home I was only able to select first and second.

Now at home I can only get it into first and neutral.

Admittedly as I was coming out of the bumpy lane where my house is, I was briefly in too high a gear. I don't know if that would have caused it? The bike has not been used since last week when I washed it. Not with a high power hose, in fact hardly used any water. I wouldn't say I'm rough with gear changes. I've never had any problems with the gear box before. I was thinking it could be some of the springs in the change mech.

Heres a few extracts from the manual to ensure were talking about the right springs.
Added the links as the pics are too big







Please excuse the terminology, dont know what these bits are called!!!

I’ve removed the clutch cover, plates and springs out. with the clutch basket still in place so I can't see that much (as I don’t have the tool yet).
Basically this... (Pictures are out of the manual)


From what I can see the springs on part A... look fine. I can't really see gear positioning lever (part B/C)



On the pic , when the when the shift arm (part A ish) changes from first to N and vice versa on the drum cam, the wee latch on the arm (red dot) easily extends and goes over the lugs on the cam allowing it to change. However when I try to go up into second, the latch does not go over the pin, it pushes the drum cam a wee bit further making the pin on the cam out of reach from the latch. I the tried to give it some encouragement, but can't seem to get the latch over the lug to change it into second.

(pins = yellow bits on drum cam)


Now not being able to see the positioning lever my thoughts are that the positioning lever is not putting the drum under enough pressure thus the movement when trying to change into second. Do you think I have this right?

Or am I thinking far too positive hoping that I dont need to get it stripped???

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Oil level good?
The correct type of motorcycle oil being used?
No damage to shift lever?
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Oil level was good with good quality oil. Levers are clean with no damage.
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You won't be able to engage 2nd gear unless the bike is in motion as your bike has a positive neutral finder.

From your description it sounds like she needs a strip to determine the cause of your issues..

The Bike may have had a hard life before you owned it.....False neutrals are the most common culprit of Transmission problems..
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