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    I have a 1982 KZ1100 Spectre D1 with 17k miles. The start button started acting up a while ago. Then when I turned on the ignition, the dash lights seemed dim. When I pressed the start button, it clicked a bit and the dash lights went out. I took the cover off and sprayed the two switches with electronic contact spray. It didn't work. Now, if I switch from off to run to off or try to start the bike Nothing happens, no dash lights, no turnover, nothing. Any suggestions? Bill

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    Default Re: 1982 kz1100 d1 start/kill switch problem

    Check battery voltage, battery connections and fuses.
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    Default Re: 1982 kz1100 d1 start/kill switch problem

    Baitis, yu da man! I was too fixated on the switch. It was the battery connection! Thanks, Bill

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    When you have the time, do this:

    Cleaning Motorcycle Electrics

    1. Get some of the De-Oxit electrical contact cleaner and figure on spending a good day going from the front of the bike to the back. It’s a plastic safe cleaner/preservative. caig.com - Home of DeoxIT® - CAIG Laboratories, Inc. is their website. Or use any plastic safe electrical contact cleaner(NOT WD-40 !).

    2. On the older Kawasaki's, a majority of electrical connectors are inside the headlight housing requiring removal of the headlight, then the fun begins.

    3. Do one set of electrical connectors at a time to avoid mixing up what connects to where. Usually disconnecting, spraying with De-Oxit and reconnecting is about all you'll need.

    4. However, when encountering the green crud of corrosion, a brass wire brush may be needed on the pins you can reach.
    Some 400-600 grit wet and dry sandpaper strips rolled into a tube should reach the male and female pins in the more difficult to clean connectors.

    5. Smoker’s pipe cleaners, cotton swabs and wooden toothpicks work as cleaning aids.

    6. Really small electrical connectors may require the use of a welders tip cleaning tool assortment.

    7. Most pins in the connectors are coated with a thin plating of tin, and others may be nothing more than copper or brass.

    8. If moisture is added, the resulting corrosion lowers the voltage/current being carried causing dim lights, slow engine cranking, slow turn signal responce and lower input voltage to the ignition coils resulting in weak spark.

    9. The left and right handlebar switch pods will need attention too as they have circuit functions like turn, horn, run/stop, and start. The older Kawasaki’s have reports of the soldered connections crumbling, if your bike has this problem, just ask, as I’ve got a repair procedure for this.

    10. Usually a spritz or two with actuation of the switch is about all needed for these switches unless corrosion is detected and then careful disassembly is required.

    11. The ignition switch may or may be not sealed to allow spraying the internal contacts. I urge caution if attempting to open this up as springs, and ball bearings may fly out never to be seen again!

    12. If your bike has the older style glass tubed fuses, I suggest replacing them as vibration can cause internal failure. AGX is the type used, and most auto parts stores can get them for you.

    13. Clean the fuse holder clips, looking for signs of overheating(discolored insulation, signs of melting).
    I use metal polish on a cotton swab, followed by spraying another clean swab with the De-Oxit and then rubbing the inside of the fuse clip.

    14. All battery cables must be clean and tight for maximum current transfer. Check the cables going from the Negative(-) battery terminal/post to the engine mounting bolt

    15. Also the one going from the Positive(+) terminal to the starter solenoid and from there to the starter motor.

    16. If any battery cable feels ”Crunchy” when flexed, replace it as possible corrosion is inside the insulation.

    17. Each "Bullet Connector" will have to be sprayed to ensure good connectivity, especially the ones going to the energizing coil of the starter solenoid.

    18. The alternator output “Bullet Connectors” are usually behind the engine sprocket cover and will need inspecting and cleaning too.

    20. The turn signal light sockets will benefit from a spritz from the contact cleaner along with the tail light/brake light socket.

    21. Some brake light switches can be sprayed on the actuating rod, with the spray running down inside to the electrical contacts, others may be sealed requiring replacement if the switch is intermittent in operation.

    22. Some people put the Di-Electric Grease on cleaned terminations/connectors, I don’t, as I’ve read/heard it can cause problems when it gets hot, actually insulating the connections, so the choice is yours to use or not.

    I think I've covered about all of the electrical systems on the bike.........

    “I spent a weekend going through every electrical connection and switch on the bike with a little scotchbrite pad and DeOxit - what a difference! Everything was brighter, gauge backlights, indicator lights, turn signals, I was getting a nicer spark, it fired up quicker, etc. Well worth my time. WELL worth it! “

    From a forum member at KZrider.com
    Mike Folks

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    Default Re: 1982 kz1100 d1 start/kill switch problem

    The older motorcycles may be experiancing failed or "Crumbled" soldered connections in the handlebar switches and light bulb sockets, here's a repair procedure:

    Read this for a primer on hand soldering: http://technologyinterface.nmsu.edu/...cs/solder.html

    Repairing Motorcycle Soldered Connections

    When repairing soldered wires on motorcycle switches or light bulbs sockets, have the following on hand:

    1. A 25 Watt soldering iron or one that the wattage can be adjusted.

    2. Rosin core solder of 60/40 type. SN60 or SN63 is preferred.

    3. Rosin flux or soldering paste (Never use solder or soldering paste designed for plumbing work, as it contains an acid that will corrode the electrical joint, ruining it).

    4. 91% rubbing Alcohol, or 70%. The lower percentage will clean up flux residue, but not as good as the higher percentage stuff.

    5. A cut down ½” paint brush, or acid brush for scrubbing the repaired solder joint.

    6. Clean rags or paper towels

    7. A damp sponge to keep the soldering iron tip clean.

    8. Some “Solder Wick” a braided bare copper wire designed to collect heated excess solder, aiding in joint preperation, available at electronic supply stores.

    9. Some wooden toothpicks.

    10. Small Hemostats or clip on heatsinks.

    A. Before soldering, “Tin” the soldering iron tip by plugging it in or turning the iron on, allowing it to get to operating temperature(2-3 minutes).

    B. Unroll about 3” of solder from the roll of rosin core solder & then using a clean rag or paper towel moistened with Alcohol, wipe the unrolled solder, removing the finger print oils that will create a poor solder joint.

    C. Apply a small amount of solder to the now heated soldering iron tip, wiping the excess off with the wet sponge, keeping a thin layer on the soldering iron.

    D. The soldering iron is now ready for use, but before applying the heated tip to a wire, wipe the tip on the damp sponge, this removes any oxidized solder and makes for a much better connection.

    E. If the joint to be repaired is grey in color or appears “Crumbled”, apply some rosin soldering paste or flux to the joint with a small toothpick of screwdriver, and then apply the soldering iron tip for a few seconds.

    G. The fluxed joint should clean up, allowing for a better connection. If no luck, use the solder wick to remove all traces of the old solder by apply in it between the soldering iron tip and the bad joint.

    H. Hemostats and clip on heatsinks will be used to prevent the wire insulation from burning, overheating & pulling away from the connection.

    I. Apply a small amount of flux to the joint to be repaired & then a very short duration of heated soldering iron tip & solder(like a few seconds or so).

    J. Clean off the repaired joint with the brush & rubbing Alcohol, the newly repaired joint should appear clean and bright, almost as if it were polished, with no voids or holes.

    K. This information comes from years of missile test cable and equipment assembly, when I worked at General Dynamics/Convair division in San Diego California, on the BGM-109 Tomahawk and later on the AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile. This was from 1983-1993.
    Mike Folks

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