Power Commander 111 mapping

Ozmeanie · 05-05-2005

I have a 2004 Mean Streak 1600 fitted with Jardine Pipes. I have just had it fitted with a Power Commander 111 and dyno tuned. It seems to run beautifully as they have set it for mid range torque / power as I requested, using a standard map supplied with the Power commander and a little tweaking.
My next project is to fit a Thunder Tornado air kit, albeit probably fitted with a chrome cover like those on: http://www.simota.com.au/HTML/Airfilters_d.htm
I assume there is not much difference between the standard filter and the proposed filter.
Does anyone have any suggestions on a Power Commander or custom map for the above configuration ?
Another question. In Australia Mean Streaks are delivered to US specifications unlike rides delivered to Europe which have different specs.
In Australia it is suggested that we use standard Australian unleaded gasoline which is off 91 octane rating. We can also buy premium unleaded at 95 octane rating and a high Octane rating from some sources at a octane rating of 98.
What is the octane ratings of US gasoline and what is suggested if a custom map is used.
Thanks in advance

kingofwings · 05-05-2005

There is a big difference in mapping from stock air to Thunder. Your bike will run very lean with your original map. I can send you the one I use for my 04 Marauder with a Thunder Tornado and Cobra Speedster Shorts. Won't be exact, but it'll get you close.

94 octane is the highest at our standard pumps.

Daekar · 05-05-2005

in my area usually the highest you ever see is 91... most of the time it's 87, 89, and 91 or 93... i've never seen anything higher than 93...

T-man · 05-05-2005

Unless you get race gas or use products like 104+ octane booster, you can rely on 93 octane in the US at the pump as the most you'll get and, on a higher compression engine like your meanie, that's what I would use, particularly if you are tuning for max power.
You can get a map from Dynojet that has a Thunder air kit and open pipes like your Jardine's, but another trip to the dyno will do the best, particularly if you are interested in maxing mid-range torque.

Ozmeanie · 05-05-2005

Thanks for the replies .... I was a little concerned what the difference in octane ratings may have on supplied maps. The fuel in the US seems to be of a slightly lower octane rating than in Oz. They say standard unleaded gas here is 92 octane but I think after it has been laying around in storage for a while, it is probably closer to 91
Back to the dyno ! although I thing they have mapped it quite well even now.

Green Knight · 05-05-2005

The best way to get a good map done on your power commander is to dyno tune it. Its expencive but its the only real way to get the power that you want from all those expecive parts. Downloaded maps and other people's custom maps might help but nothing repalces a dyno tuned power commander. I'd say do all the performace upgrades you want to do then take her to the dyno again.

Nanuk · 05-12-2005

Hey King, I may look you up when I get some $$$ that is the set up I want to do to my marauder.

kingofwings · 05-12-2005

Just let me know, I'll email it to ya!

aspet · 08-03-2005

Unical 76 has over 91, they got 98 , 118 and higher , but not recommended for bikes its got methanol !1 just an FYI

05-05-2005	#1 (permalink)
Ozmeanie Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 23	Power Commander 111 mapping I have a 2004 Mean Streak 1600 fitted with Jardine Pipes. I have just had it fitted with a Power Commander 111 and dyno tuned. It seems to run beautifully as they have set it for mid range torque / power as I requested, using a standard map supplied with the Power commander and a little tweaking. My next project is to fit a Thunder Tornado air kit, albeit probably fitted with a chrome cover like those on: http://www.simota.com.au/HTML/Airfilters_d.htm I assume there is not much difference between the standard filter and the proposed filter. Does anyone have any suggestions on a Power Commander or custom map for the above configuration ? Another question. In Australia Mean Streaks are delivered to US specifications unlike rides delivered to Europe which have different specs. In Australia it is suggested that we use standard Australian unleaded gasoline which is off 91 octane rating. We can also buy premium unleaded at 95 octane rating and a high Octane rating from some sources at a octane rating of 98. What is the octane ratings of US gasoline and what is suggested if a custom map is used. Thanks in advance __________________ 2004 Mean Streak :grin: Honda Hornet 600 Honda CB 250 Former owner: Triumph ST Sprint Honda Shadow 750

05-05-2005	#2 (permalink)
kingofwings Posting Slacker Forum Supporter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honesdale, PA Posts: 2,618	There is a big difference in mapping from stock air to Thunder. Your bike will run very lean with your original map. I can send you the one I use for my 04 Marauder with a Thunder Tornado and Cobra Speedster Shorts. Won't be exact, but it'll get you close. 94 octane is the highest at our standard pumps. __________________ *R.I.P. Deron*

05-05-2005	#3 (permalink)
Daekar Foil Inspector BTK Beginner Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Posts: 110	in my area usually the highest you ever see is 91... most of the time it's 87, 89, and 91 or 93... i've never seen anything higher than 93... __________________ We should all rise up and take over the insurance companies... they really are evil after all... look at your premiums and tell me they aren't... **** MSF Graduate 2004 Ninja ZX-5R

05-05-2005	#4 (permalink)
T-man Deerslayer & BTK Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 1,266	Unless you get race gas or use products like 104+ octane booster, you can rely on 93 octane in the US at the pump as the most you'll get and, on a higher compression engine like your meanie, that's what I would use, particularly if you are tuning for max power. You can get a map from Dynojet that has a Thunder air kit and open pipes like your Jardine's, but another trip to the dyno will do the best, particularly if you are interested in maxing mid-range torque. __________________ T-man VROC #12333 2005 V2K Ltd 2001 1500 Classic FI http://www.geocities.com/tensman_99/mcpics.html

05-05-2005	#5 (permalink)
Ozmeanie Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 23	Thanks for the replies .... I was a little concerned what the difference in octane ratings may have on supplied maps. The fuel in the US seems to be of a slightly lower octane rating than in Oz. They say standard unleaded gas here is 92 octane but I think after it has been laying around in storage for a while, it is probably closer to 91 Back to the dyno ! although I thing they have mapped it quite well even now. __________________ 2004 Mean Streak :grin: Honda Hornet 600 Honda CB 250 Former owner: Triumph ST Sprint Honda Shadow 750

05-05-2005	#6 (permalink)
Green Knight Banned BTK Expert Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mason City, IA Posts: 1,803	The best way to get a good map done on your power commander is to dyno tune it. Its expencive but its the only real way to get the power that you want from all those expecive parts. Downloaded maps and other people's custom maps might help but nothing repalces a dyno tuned power commander. I'd say do all the performace upgrades you want to do then take her to the dyno again.

05-12-2005	#7 (permalink)
Nanuk Foil Inspector BTK Beginner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota Posts: 100	Hey King, I may look you up when I get some $$$ that is the set up I want to do to my marauder. __________________ I'm not fat, I'm just big boned..... Mine; 2005 Suzuki M-95 Wife; 2006 Suzuki C-50

05-12-2005	#8 (permalink)
kingofwings Posting Slacker Forum Supporter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honesdale, PA Posts: 2,618	Just let me know, I'll email it to ya! __________________ *R.I.P. Deron*

08-03-2005	#9 (permalink)
aspet Banned BTK Beginner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glendale, CA. Posts: 49	Unical 76 has over 91, they got 98 , 118 and higher , but not recommended for bikes its got methanol !1 just an FYI

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