almost ate sh!t just now!!!! wtf?

[ispeed77]

^^^ i have to disagree with that. locking up the rear, you can ride it out. lock up the front and have the tire turn any and you are going down.

[greenmonster]

^^^ i have to disagree with that. locking up the rear, you can ride it out. lock up the front and have the tire turn any and you are going down.

+1

I dont see what the big deal is...if you go back and read my last post, it encompasses how to use the rear and front brakes under normal situations and in panic stops. Here's the skinny...avoid, as best you can, getting into a panic situ in the first place. The more experience you obtain, the better you will get at this avoidance thingy. Watch yer speed, be aware of your environment (cagers near you, road surface conditions, etc.) keep your head on a swivel and your eyes in the mirror, practice braking techniques, dont ride above your level of comfort no matter how much others may pressure you to "keep up". Avoid them like the plague...theyre idiots...and for God's sake, if you have any questions, read my posts!
Oh, and listen to ispeed77 too! Us Massachusetts guys know what's best for you!

[ispeed77]

if you can ride in New Englad, you can ride anywhere. or was that ski ?

[greenmonster]

while it is never advisable to lock up your brakes (either one...) i would rather lock up the front than the rear. reason being...your rear tire is most of your stability on a bike. the rear tire is what you use to turn. yes you turn the bars (countersteer at speeds over 6 mph or so), but the rear tire is the one that makes you turn. thats why wheelies can be steered, as well as stoppies. the rear tire is your most important gyroscope. keep it rolling! if you lock it up you run the risk of sliding out or even highsiding if you let off the brake during a skid.

The only thing I agree with is not letting off the rear brake once locked up, as it will roll again if you do let up, regain traction, and like I've mentioned before, you are in danger of highsiding. As for the rest, well, I'm not so sure things work that way. And FWIW...you lock up the front into a skid, and you are definitely going down! A successful stoppie never locks up.

[greenmonster]

if you can ride in New England, you can ride anywhere. or was that ski ?

Both! Especially if you ride year 'round!

[ispeed77]

i can't ride year round up here, too rural, too much sand on the roads as of mid November. i have a few MA VROC buddies that ride all winter, but they live in or close to the city where there isn't that much sand on the road. i usually park it by mid to the end of Nov and it doesn't see daylight again until late April usually.

[Seadog1967]

i can't ride year round up here, too rural, too much sand on the roads as of mid November. i have a few MA VROC buddies that ride all winter, but they live in or close to the city where there isn't that much sand on the road. i usually park it by mid to the end of Nov and it doesn't see daylight again until late April usually.

Gee and I was going to suggest a Mohawk Trail ride this Dec. LOL

[ispeed77]

i'll follow you in my Jeep so i can go in and extract you

[Seadog1967]

i'll follow you in my Jeep so i can go in and extract you

Well you sure ain't no fun. LOL by the way you ever run 116 out of Deerfield up to Savoy???? kinda like a mini dragon. Did it the last couple weekends. Hardly any traffic and road in great shape.

[ispeed77]

i tell you what, when i eventually get another dual sport, i'll got up the Mohawk with you in December
and no, haven't hit 116 yet, but i guess i'm gonna have to.

[Seadog1967]

For sure try 116. The first 11-14 miles got some wicked curves and sweeps. You could do 116 to 8 then back home via 2 over the trail.

[ispeed77]

instead of adding it to my list i am just going to PM you when i want to go for a ride and ask you where i should go.
otherwise i'll never remember all the roads you tell me about.

[greenmonster]

i'll follow you in my Jeep so i can go in and extract you

LMAO! It gets pretty sandy around here too, what with all the traffic that has to be kept moving. So I go out on those days that are bright and sunny and I watch for any sand, etc. So far, no probs. When it's mid-February, and I pull up next to a cager at a stop light, with temps in the mid teens, you should see the looks on their faces! Priceless! It's like...they stare with this expression that says "WTF?" Ha!! I just take the scoot out for 20 mins or so...to get my fix and keep the fluids in the bike moving. But, as you know, there are days when its not so bad out, and I'm glad the scoot is ready to roll.

[Seadog1967]

Ya I had fun last winter with the looks on some faces also. We tend to get a bit of snow in Western Ma.

[ispeed77]

LMAO! It gets pretty sandy around here too, what with all the traffic that has to be kept moving. So I go out on those days that are bright and sunny and I watch for any sand, etc. So far, no probs. When it's mid-February, and I pull up next to a cager at a stop light, with temps in the mid teens, you should see the looks on their faces! Priceless! It's like...they stare with this expression that says "WTF?" Ha!! I just take the scoot out for 20 mins or so...to get my fix and keep the fluids in the bike moving. But, as you know, there are days when its not so bad out, and I'm glad the scoot is ready to roll.

yeah, those days it kills me not to ride. hopefully i will own another dual sport sometime in the next few years and i can take that out all winter.



nice pic Warren !