Tazy crazy!

[NCDave]

well, the problem, in my view, goes well beyond police actions to the actions of society as a whole. As I think about it, society has become a lot more aggressive over the years, and a lot more toward police as well. In a sense, society has brought police actions on themselves given the treatment they hand out. I know...I'm generalizing.

Police in general put up with a great deal of grief from people sometimes, and it's not surprising that they become "hardened" to it. A lot of it has to do with the police department's leadership too. In my son's case, the department is very strict and really clamps down on inappropriate actions (at least what I hear from him so far). The Chief seems to be very aware of the image of the department and stresses public service a lot. I don't know if that's a common theme in departments, especially bigger ones, but as a resident of the community, it's refreshing to see.

[moongirl]

Originally Posted by NCDave

Perhaps, but if you don't break the law and treat police officers with respect, then you don't have anything to worry about. If you give them crap, then you deserve everything you get. Plain and simple.

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I hate that crap!!! Oh I broke into your home and tried to steal your stuff but now let me sue you for shooting me in the arse!!! That's why if you shoot them in your house make sure they are dead

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by NCDave

society has become a lot more aggressive over the years, and a lot more toward police as well.

That's a fallacy, studies show that violent crime is on the decline. Flipping on the news might make you think the world is coming to an end, but its just rabid sensationalism and the quest for ratings.

Originally Posted by NCDave

In a sense, society has brought police actions on themselves given the treatment they hand out. I know...I'm generalizing.

Police in general put up with a great deal of grief from people sometimes, and it's not surprising that they become "hardened" to it.

You're not saying that society in general deserves to be punished and ruled with an iron fist are you?

Parking enforcement officers also put up with a lot of crap from people but they grin and bear it, because patience is a virtue when you're expected to deal with the public. If a police officer finds that the stress of his/her work is starting to get to them and they can no longer do their job effectively then its up to him/her to talk to their supervisor about getting the help they need. They can't take it out on the next person that looks at them funny.

[NCDave]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

That's a fallacy, studies show that violent crime is on the decline. Flipping on the news might make you think the world is coming to an end, but its just rabid sensationalism and the quest for ratings.

I was speaking of general attitude of people, not with regard to crime statistics.

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

You're not saying that society in general deserves to be punished and ruled with an iron fist are you?

Parking enforcement officers also put up with a lot of crap from people but they grin and bear it, because patience is a virtue when you're expected to deal with the public. If a police officer finds that the stress of his/her work is starting to get to them and they can no longer do their job effectively then its up to him/her to talk to their supervisor about getting the help they need. They can't take it out on the next person that looks at them funny.

well, it all comes back to a respect thing, and the public at large is showing less and less respect to people. Even customer service people get crap. People never stop to think that 1) they are only shooting the messenger, and 2) they can accomplish more by talking calmly to someone. I generally treat those situations with a lot of respect because I know the crap those people get every single day. I am polite but firm, and will generally ask nicely to speak with a supervisor and then talk politely to them as well. Most times I'll get what I'm after and both the customer service workers and myself have a more pleasant day for it. There are SOOOO many that fire off at the first hint of an issue, and then they wonder why they get treated like crap. I don't blame the customer service worker, nor the police officer for giving crap back when they get it.

Then again, I'd just as soon shoot them and eliminate a sociatal problem!

[Jake '53]

Originally Posted by NCDave

I was speaking of general attitude of people, not with regard to crime statistics.



well, it all comes back to a respect thing, and the public at large is showing less and less respect to people. Even customer service people get crap. People never stop to think that 1) they are only shooting the messenger, and 2) they can accomplish more by talking calmly to someone. I generally treat those situations with a lot of respect because I know the crap those people get every single day. I am polite but firm, and will generally ask nicely to speak with a supervisor and then talk politely to them as well. Most times I'll get what I'm after and both the customer service workers and myself have a more pleasant day for it. There are SOOOO many that fire off at the first hint of an issue, and then they wonder why they get treated like crap. I don't blame the customer service worker, nor the police officer for giving crap back when they get it.

Then again, I'd just as soon shoot them and eliminate a sociatal problem!

Too true.. Good manners in the face of small adversities is a dying art.