Got a New "Toy" I'm in Major Trouble!!!!!

[trocar]

Originally Posted by RampRat

Not to mention it's good training for the oldest daughter as she's planing on being a sniper for the Army



Now we just need to figure out what one of these to take:

see you call that a collection, We would call that an arsenal!

Looks like a heck of a lot of fun, though. I would think that as long as everyone knows that they are weapons and treats them with the caution required, they would be a lot of fun.

[trocar]

[quote=RichLockyer;1114288]

Only a dummy doesn't take his primary defense weapon....

LOL.
North of the border that would mean a cell phone!!!!!!

[RampRat]

Originally Posted by trocar

We would call that an arsenal!

An arsenal is an establishment for the construction, repair, storage and issue of weapons and ammunition. The word arsenal appears in various forms in Romance languages (from which it has been adopted into the ones), i.e. Italian arzanale, Spanish arsenal etc.; Italian also has arzana and darsena, and Spanish a longer form atarazanal. The word is of Arabic origin, being a corruption of dar as-sina'ah, "house of trade" or "manufacture". Such guesses as arx navalis, "naval citadel", arx senatus (i.e. of Venice, etc.), have been discounted. For the rest of Early Modern Europe, the Arsenal was the Venetian Arsenal.

[Guitar7272]

Originally Posted by trocar

LOL.
North of the border that would mean a cell phone!!!!!!

That worries me. I dont like the idea of putting my life in someone else's hands. As far as Im concerned, the only person responsible for your safety is yourself.

[RichLockyer]

Originally Posted by Guitar7272

That worries me. I dont like the idea of putting my life in someone else's hands. As far as Im concerned, the only person responsible for your safety is yourself.

+1
When seconds matter, the cops are only minutes away.

Now... some of the cellphones that I sold out of Radio Shack back in '87 were heavy enough to be used as weapons... but only if you were at the beach or some other place where a big rock wasn't available.

[RichLockyer]

Originally Posted by trocar

see you call that a collection, We would call that an arsenal!

I call that a SMALL collection

Looks like a heck of a lot of fun, though. I would think that as long as everyone knows that they are weapons and treats them with the caution required, they would be a lot of fun.

That's the little fact that escapes the media.
Children who are raised in a home with weapons freely available are NOT the ones having accidents. They are taught at an early age what weapons are capable of, and treat them with respect.
When I was growing up, I knew exactly where my father's guns were... and they NEVER came out of that closet unless we were taking them out to prepare them for a trip. Even through my "rebellious" years, they never came out to "show someone".

Kids that are brought up to be AFRAID of guns are the ones that have no idea how to safely handle them and who end up hurting themselves or a friend when they "discover" one.


My buddy's son is 12, and I tell ya... Forced to pick one or the other, I think I would RATHER be looking down the wrong end of my buddy's .45ACP held by my buddy than looking down his .38Spec held by his son. That kid is deadly accurate. The .45 has too much kick for him, but with .38 and my 9mm, he's good.

[bennice]

Originally Posted by RampRat

I forgive ya, heck my Wife is a Canadian and we are going shooting in the morning

Lots of "reasons" for owning one of the GSG5's least of one is it's cheap to shoot, ya can buy a box of 550 rounds of ammo for less than $12.00 and spend the day having fun shooting up crap

Now the style is a classic style and unless we are rich and can afford a pre 86 MP5 this is the closest we poor can ever get to owning a MP5 & the MP5 is one of those weapons that has a feeling to it that's so unique and charismatic it's hard to describe, but it's there!

The American mindset is somewhat different than the Canadian one when it comes to weapons as Canada does not have a 2nd Amendment and still lives under the Crown in many ways.

Now having said that we don't "need" a purpose to own a firearm, just like nobody "needs" 2 (or more) cars, 4 wheel drive trucks, motorcycle's , snowmobile's, campers and RV's and other fun toys let alone a HUGE house with more bedroom than people.

It's a fun "toy", a great learning "toy" and something the entire family can go out and have fun with.

You said it all right there, Rampy.

Didn't know you were married to a Canadian gal too. Mine used to ask me all kinds of questions about the guns and the fascination with them till I took her out to the range. After the first few mags it was almost as though she'd been born with the gun in her hand. She couldn't miss...and she LIKED it...a LOT.

[RampRat]

Originally Posted by RichLockyer

Kids that are brought up to be AFRAID of guns are the ones that have no idea how to safely handle them and who end up hurting themselves or a friend when they "discover" one.

The 9 year old daughter helped get things ready tonight & kept asking if she was going to get to shoot a pistol. (was originally planing on taking just a couple .22's and possibly a AR)

Who am I to say no

We will be taking the Ruger Mk II for her to shoot.

She knows and understands how dangerous guns are & what to do if she ever finds one & what to do if her friends ever "find" one.

By teaching her about guns the "mistery" has been removed & she is not only not afraid of them, but respects em and knows what they can do in the hands of a human who is stupid/dumb or just plain crazzy. She also knows that a firearm by itself is nothing more than a tool and something fun to shoot as long as you respect it and follow the 4 rules of firearms safety:

1. All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule.
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.

[RampRat]

Originally Posted by bennice

Didn't know you were married to a Canadian gal too.

Yep, she's from Sask.

[900classic]

I don't know anything about guns. But those look pretty awesome!

[Guitar7272]

Originally Posted by 900classic

I don't know anything about guns. But those look pretty awesome!

There's always time to learn!!!

[RichLockyer]

Originally Posted by Guitar7272

There's always time to learn!!!

For some.

Sadly, I can't learn with those sweet high-cap mags.
The State of California has decided that they will inconvenience me by making me carry 2 or more mags if I want to fire more than 10 rounds.

http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/XD9/DSC00659.JPG
(yes, there's a 7th mag in the grip)

I keep the mags loaded with JHP when at home. When I head out to the range or the desert, 2 remain loaded, and the rest are dumped and refilled with the ball rounds.

[Guitar7272]

Originally Posted by RichLockyer

For some.

Sadly, I can't learn with those sweet high-cap mags.
The State of California has decided that they will inconvenience me by making me carry 2 or more mags if I want to fire more than 10 rounds.

http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/XD9/DSC00659.JPG
(yes, there's a 7th mag in the grip)

I keep the mags loaded with JHP when at home. When I head out to the range or the desert, 2 remain loaded, and the rest are dumped and refilled with the ball rounds.

I feel your pain, Jersey is limited to 15 rounds per mag.

We, just like you, have our own version of the assault weapons ban on the books and the sun will never come down on that.

[RichLockyer]

Originally Posted by Guitar7272

I feel your pain, Jersey is limited to 15 rounds per mag.

That's a little less unreasonable though... as far as pistols go, 15 is max anyways for a 9mm or 357 Sig. Not sure about the .45ACP... I think it's either 10 or 12.

Of course, some would argue that with a .45 you only need 10 rounds and with a 9mm you really do need 2 15rd mags

[Guitar7272]

Originally Posted by RichLockyer

That's a little less unreasonable though... as far as pistols go, 15 is max anyways for a 9mm or 357 Sig. Not sure about the .45ACP... I think it's either 10 or 12.

Of course, some would argue that with a .45 you only need 10 rounds and with a 9mm you really do need 2 15rd mags

In handguns yeah, I guess it would be a little less unreasonable, but when you're talking about rifles its ridiculous. The mag restrictions are tame compared to the rest of the crap in this state though so its lower on my list of "crap the government has no business meddling in".

And I shoot .45 so you can guess which side of that fence I'm on!

[D-Day]

Here's my new baby, first time purchase since I turned 21 yesterday... Though obviously not my first gun. I've had guns as gifts since I was 15, but this was the first one I could buy on my own, first time at legal age.

It's a Springfield Armory V-16 Longslide, ported. It looks great, doesn't seem to have a lot of rounds through it, so some edges may need to be knocked off. I've yet to take it to the range, since I prefer the middle of the week, so I can't offer a review yet whether or not it's the most accurate gun I've ever had, or a total lemon.

Either way, picking it up for $850 was a decent deal. It was $1,035 at the show, and came home and looked it up and thought about it a while, and when I went back, it was already lowered. Longslides just don't seem to be as popular, but I think they're unique.

As I understand it, if you change the spring in this model, you can also shoot .45 Super. It didn't come with the spring, but I could find one if I so chose to.

A couple pics:

My new V-16 on top, with my other Springfield Armory below it.



With 10 round Wilson mags.



With standard 7 round mags.

[RichLockyer]

Very nice, but I would not want to use a ported weapon for personal defense

[bennice]

Originally Posted by RampRat

Yep, she's from Sask.

Nice...never been to that part of the country.
My wifey is from Winterpeg.