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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 03-07-2009, 02:37 PM Thread Starter
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Popping out of 1st gear into neutral

Has anyone had, or is anyone having this problem?

I have on 07 900 Classic LT and am having a problem that developed around 7500 miles. When I pull up to a stoplight, I will shift my bike into neutral, so I can take my hand off the clutch (I know they told us not to do that, in the motorcycle safety class). When I am ready to go, I shift into first, but the transmission pops up into neutral. Sometimes I can shift it into first again and it will stay, sometimes it will pop into neutral over and over again, so I have to hold the shifter into first, while I let out the clutch. It never pops out of first, or any other gear, while I am moving along.

This is an intermittent problem, but is becoming more and more common. The weird thing is that the dealership seems to have fixed this problem once, but it is doing it again. Previously, they replaced the "shifting star" and spring. It worked great for 200 miles or so.

The dealership has replaced service managers since then, so I am dealing with a new guy. I asked them to fix this problem, while my bike is in there for repairs after being ran into by a Suburban. The service manager gave me this long explanation of what is happening internal to the transmission. He ended the explanation with basically saying that this is normal and there is nothing they can do to fix it. I didn't accept that response. I asked him why it NEVER did this for the first 7500 miles or so, and why it was fixed for a little while before. He said they would go through it and see what they can find. This is all covered under warranty, so it isn't costing me anything, except the time without my bike.

Has anyone experienced this same problem, or something similar? Was it fixed, and if so, what was the fix? Am I wrong not to accept his basically saying this is normal?

Thanks in advance.
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While sitting there with your hand off the clutch, rock the bike a couple of feet forward and backwards.

My 1600 will do the same thing and always has if I go into neutral at a stop and then back into 1st without actually moving the bike.

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While sitting there with your hand off the clutch, rock the bike a couple of feet forward and backwards.

My 1600 will do the same thing and always has if I go into neutral at a stop and then back into 1st without actually moving the bike.
+1 Mine gives me some probs every now and then, but I don't put it in neutral at very many lights. There is a lack of stop lights in West Texas... lol.

However I've had other bikes and rocking and back and forth will work most of the time.

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There are occasional times when starting off that mine will pop. However, I can always tell when this is going to happen. When first starting the bike and shifting into first, if I get rewarded with a sharp "clack".....I'm fine. If it's kinda timid sounding...into neutral and shift again. I can tell when it's in there or not. I also make the shift a kind of sharp jab. That seems to take care of things.

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Had the same thing on my 1500 and a couple of Friends as well with the 1500. Found it happened more if I put it in neutral and didn't let out the clutch before putting back in gear. But instead of looking funny rocking the bike at the light.
Once your stopped go into 2nd gear then to neutral. Now when you go to 1st gear it will be fully engaged every time.

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While sitting there with your hand off the clutch, rock the bike a couple of feet forward and backwards.

My 1600 will do the same thing and always has if I go into neutral at a stop and then back into 1st without actually moving the bike.
+1. I will sometimes put my foot on the shifter and let it roll and I can feel when the gear fully engages and I know Im good.

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What is most puzzling to me is that it hasn't always done this. If it had been this way since day 1, I would be accustomed to it now. It is also strange how it had stopped doing it for a short while, after that spring was replaced.
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What is most puzzling to me is that it hasn't always done this. If it had been this way since day 1, I would be accustomed to it now. It is also strange how it had stopped doing it for a short while, after that spring was replaced.
Did you change oil brands recently?

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Did you change oil brands recently?
No change in oil.
This issue first started in mid January. About 3 weeks prior, I installed Kuryakyn ISO heal/toe shifter covers ( Küryakyn , Küryakyn ).
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About 3 weeks prior, I installed Kuryakyn ISO heal/toe shifter covers ( Küryakyn , Küryakyn ).
Is it possible that your shifter is hitting something and not allowing a full stroke? Just a thought.
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