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· Waiting for happy hour
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Ok, let me first say that I am doing better with my turn signals (prior post about forgetting to turn them off). I started cutting them off before I am completely out of the turn as someone suggested and that helped quite a bit. I also started the bumping the button from time to time, maybe it will become habit soon.

Anyway, I rode my Custom to work today and a guy asked me "why don't you make your rear turn signals dual element so you have markers and turn signals at night for better visability". I must admit, I had never noticed, I thought that was the way they did work. I had to look for myself and saw that only the taillamp is lit when riding.

Has anybody done this and is it worth the trouble? How did you do it? I think he said he just bought another set for frt lamps and installed on the rear.

It sounds safer;)
 

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Actually, you are not permited by law to run amber running lights on the rear of a bike. This kit, sold by everyone, converts the rear to running lights legally.

Thhttp://www.electricalconnection.com/other-lighting/roadbike.PDF

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Actually, you are not permited by law to run amber running lights on the rear of a bike. This kit, sold by everyone, converts the rear to running lights legally.

http://www.electricalconnection.com/other-lighting/roadbike.PDF
This is the kit I put on my bike (900 Classic). What a difference! I do half of my riding at night coming home from work so this was also a concern of mine. They may not show up that much during the day but they light up the night! There's no doubt what your doing at night time.
they show red for bbrake/marker lights:



The red marker goes off for the amber turn signal:



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I have considered this but chose not to for this reason. Which draws more attention?........a bulb that is dim and suddenly blicks brighter?......or, a bulb that is off an suddenly blicks brightly?
 

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I've been thinking of doing this, but was looking at switching the rear yellow turn signal lens to red to meet the law. I to have been worried over the possibility that flashing a red light that's already on might be easier to overlook, then the now flashing yellow turn signal, especially during daylight.

As I understand Madden's description and photos, it appears he's talking about a system where the current rear turn signals are red for running, brighter red for stopping and bright yellow when turning -- possibly a clear lens and red and yellow LEDs?. Is this correct? He says they're not very bright during daylight, but isn't he talking about when they're in the running mode? Are they visible, during the day when they burn brighter red as brake lights? It seems from the photo at they're as bright or possibly brighter than the originals as yellow turn lights. Is any of the previous correct? Even if they aren't that bright as stop lights, if they're as bright or brighter than the originals as yellow turn signals, it can't be any worse than the originals are during the day. Is that correct? The added advantage would seem to be at night, when more lighting in the rear would do the greatest good. I've, in fact, put red reflective tape on my sissy bar, luggage rack, and license plate mount to increase the red someone behind my VN900 sees at night.

I'd like to look into the kit Madden talks about, but can't seem to bring up the web site listed in either of his replies. David, could you either give me a better address or the company's name so I can run a web search for them?
 

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I've been thinking of doing this, but was looking at switching the rear yellow turn signal lens to red to meet the law. I to have been worried over the possibility that flashing a red light that's already on might be easier to overlook, then the now flashing yellow turn signal, especially during daylight.

As I understand Madden's description and photos, it appears he's talking about a system where the current rear turn signals are red for running, brighter red for stopping and bright yellow when turning -- possibly a clear lens and red and yellow LEDs?. Is this correct?

You keep your amber lense's

He says they're not very bright during daylight, but isn't he talking about when they're in the running mode? Are they visible, during the day when they burn brighter red as brake lights? It seems from the photo at they're as bright or possibly brighter than the originals as yellow turn lights. Is any of the previous correct?

The greatest asset is at night, but that's when I need them.

Even if they aren't that bright as stop lights, if they're as bright or brighter than the originals as yellow turn signals, it can't be any worse than the originals are during the day. Is that correct?

They are better than stock light all the way around.

The added advantage would seem to be at night, when more lighting in the rear would do the greatest good. I've, in fact, put red reflective tape on my sissy bar, luggage rack, and license plate mount to increase the red someone behind my VN900 sees at night.

I'd like to look into the kit Madden talks about, but can't seem to bring up the web site listed in either of his replies. David, could you either give me a better address or the company's name so I can run a web search for them?
Meancycles.com Look up safety light modulators ans bulbs
 

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Red lenses instead

I kicked the dual element idea around, then found these signal lenses ($45) you can get plain red or w/ the blue dots. These lenses along with the Kuryakyn stop/tail modulator ($55) let you keep the single element bulb.
When you step on the brake all three lights flash 3 times before staying on solid. You get stop and turn at the same time out of your single element bulb, and the signals are also lit all the time as running lights.

Since the lenses are red you don't have to worry about the "no amber" stop/tail light law. Also didn't have to mess with installing the LED rings.
Really makes you more visible.

 

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Hello AIFWIKIR.

Do you remember if the break and turn signal wires are color coded from the factory. i am going to get the Electical Connections Kit after the first of the year. If you remember which was which and could indicate that would be helpfull before i get into the light system.

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As the message in the link states, go to this link to download the manual.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/ma...0&ctx=search&cl=729710&af=31&o=relevance&be=0

I have the electrical connections unit on my bike and like it. You tap into the wires in the tail light assembly, it's tight in there so be careful. It's also a pain to run the wires through the stems because unlike those harley stems in the photos they show that are open from end to end, ours have waterproof plugs in them. I ended up taking the stem apart and grinding a channel into the plastic where the light socket goes for the wires to run through. Then used a hot piece of wire to melt a path through the water proof plug and ran the wires. As soon as you get the wires through the rubber pretty much seals it tight.

After you get the Electrical connections unit in, look into the Backoff brake unit that will flash your brake lights 4-5 times then go solid then flash 3 times and solid and so on. This one you just cut the brake line and install I have mine under the seat, just after the plug.

It's really pretty neat install and works great.
 

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All good ways to do it. Here's the way I did it on my Daily CB750F. My rear signals were broken. I work in an HD shop, takeoff parts are plentiful. I used Softail Deuce front turn signals with three wires. The LOW intensity lights, I wired to the brake lights. The HIGH intensity lights, I wired to the turn signals.
I then scrounged around the shop for two red lenses which made me legal.

So when your riding down the street, the taillight is lit. Hit the brake, Both turn signals light and the brake light lights (Four filaments) Turn signals operate normally. This operates better than the sportbike mini signals as the bulbs don't blow out and they are BRIGHT!!
 
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