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Have any of you used Amsoil and their filters in your bike(s)? Thoughts? Concerns?

My cousin's husband is an Amsoil dealer and gave me a filter and oil for my 800 that had nearly 18,000 miles at the time. I was about to put it in, but swapped the 800 for a new VN900 Classic LT.

Thinking about putting the Amsoil in the 900 after the warranty is up, but would first like to hear about experience others have had.
 

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Have any of you used Amsoil and their filters in your bike(s)? Thoughts? Concerns?

My cousin's husband is an Amsoil dealer and gave me a filter and oil for my 800 that had nearly 18,000 miles at the time. I was about to put it in, but swapped the 800 for a new VN900 Classic LT.

Thinking about putting the Amsoil in the 900 after the warranty is up, but would first like to hear about experience others have had.
After many hours of research and using various synthetics two come out on top. Amsoil for motorcycles and Mobil 1 for motorcycles. Amsoil can be discounted on line often 30.00 for a gallon so it's not too pricey that way.

I've used various synthetics in all of my bikes and I am of the opinion most are fine. Just be sure to use motorcyle labeled synthetics since they do not contain anti friction components that don't get along with wet clutches.
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I used Kawasaki's synthetic and switched to Amsoil then back to Kaw's synthetic. I was surprised to find that there was less engine noise with the Kawasaki oil. I change my oil every 6000 km.
 

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I have used Amsoil and the OEM filter in my 900 LT for two summers now. Overall the engine and tranny are much quieter.
 

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I currently have Amsoil in all of our bikes. My experience has been that there is an increase in power and better gas mileage. The 650R and the Mean Streak both gained more than the 'Busa with Amsoil. The Mean Streak's gas mileage increase by a significant factor (approx 5% - from 40 to 42mpg) and the 650R can lift the front wheel without having to preload the front forks. What's the actual power increase rate? I have no idea. All I know is front wheel lift required a bit more work before I switched. Now I can lift the front wheel by simply rolling on the power from 6k rpm's. Before I had to chop the throttle and then nail it quick to get any lift at all. Both bikes have a significant decrease in tranny noise and an increase in smoothness when shifting.

That's the good. The bad? I don't feel the Amsoil lasts much longer than conventional oil does. The sweetness of the shifting wears off around 5000 miles, so I wind up having to change anyway. Of course the normal oils shift like krap at 3000 miles, so you can go further. But I'm not yet convinced the trade off in price is sufficent. Having said this, you don't have to change quite as often, but I don't think you can go as long as Amsoil claims.
 

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Thinking about putting the Amsoil in the 900 after the warranty is up
Why wait?

My Personal Test Results:
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/oil.xls
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-2000.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/Amsoil_MCV_2000.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/MotulTwinSynUOA.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/M1-15w50UOA.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/RP20w50UOA.jpg

Virgin Analyses:
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-virgin.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/Amsoil_MCV_Virgin.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/virgin_m1_15w-50.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/rotella-syn5w40.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/MotulTwinSynVOA.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/CastGTXVOA.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/RP20w50New.jpg


Oil Analysis Collected from Others:
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-goldcap.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/rotella-5w40-1.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/rotella-5w40-2.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/rotella-15w40.pdf
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-15w50.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-15w50.pdf
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1-vtwin.pdf
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/M1-15W50-3704.pdf
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/Kaw1600_Oil_Sample_1.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/m1_15w-50_2k.jpg
http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/oil/meanstreak_amsoil.jpg


I'm not that crazy about Amsoil filters. Their automotive filters lack "flats" for a cap wrench, and they cost more than the Mobil-1 M1-108 (which will fit your 900) with no indication that they are any better.
 

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I was planning on waiting so I could take advantage of at least part of Amsoil's touted length of time between changes without endangering the bike's warranty. Was planning, however, to not try and not change oil for the rest of the time I ride the 900 which is how long they say it should last.

The reason I mentioned the Amsoil filter is that, like I mentioned, I was given the filter along with the oil and figured some of the company's claim to lasting for 60 or so upteen million miles was in conjunction with their filter.
 

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I would not go with extended drain intervals on a bike, unless you consider "extended" to be following the owner's manual recommendations.

Take a look at my spreadsheet... even after only 2,000 miles, the 20w50 automotive and conventional oils had sheared down from 50wt to a high 30wt.
By comparison, M1 and Amsoil still tested within spec for a NEW 20w50.

I'm currently running V-Twin to 6,000 miles and will see how it does with that change interval.

The 20,000+ intervals you read about are for cages, and if you look carefully, they are recommending this in conjunction with a bypass oil filtration system. These systems do indeed work in cages that do not have a gearbox and wet clutch shearing the oil down. The bypass filtration systems keep the oil VERY clean, and since you are still changing the filters every 10,000 or so, the quart or two that you are adding replenishes the additive package. I know of guys running such systems on the Chevy Duramax that have not changed their oil in 60,000 miles and the lab reports come back that the oil is still good.



Synthetic oil is an engine saver... not a money saver.
 

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To chime in what Rich is saying, I had my Amsoil drained and tested at 3,700 miles on the oil. The labs said based on that not to run more than 4.5 - 5k on this oil change before testing again. I will drain and have it tested again as they recommended. When I was reading some Amsoil literature at the store on recommended oil changes it said not to exceed manufacturers change recommendations.
 

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Why wait until the warranty is up. I use Amsoil from the 600 mile oil change. Rear end lube change at that time too. Done this for my last 3 bikes. One Honda 1100 and two Kawasaki 1600's. No problems at all. Of course I break all my bikes in like I ride so the everything is seated by the 600 mile mark too.
Ride safe,
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I put Amsoil in at 4K miles and would have done it sooner but some were saying to put a few thousand miles on it first. I have almost 15.5K now.
I run 10w40 in fall/winter and 20/50 spring/summer (90-105 degrees) with a Super-Tech ST6607 oil filter from Wal-mart which is quality-wise, one of the best for $2.42.

Oil filters for the 900

Oil Filter:
Bosch 3300
K&N 204
mobil M1 108
Purolator PL 14612
Supertech (Wal-Mart) ST6607
 

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I use Amsoil and a Purolator (Pure One) filter. Good Combo..my 2006 Nomad loves the combination...

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I would not go with extended drain intervals on a bike, unless you consider "extended" to be following the owner's manual recommendations.

Take a look at my spreadsheet... even after only 2,000 miles, the 20w50 automotive and conventional oils had sheared down from 50wt to a high 30wt.
By comparison, M1 and Amsoil still tested within spec for a NEW 20w50.

I'm currently running V-Twin to 6,000 miles and will see how it does with that change interval.

The 20,000+ intervals you read about are for cages, and if you look carefully, they are recommending this in conjunction with a bypass oil filtration system. These systems do indeed work in cages that do not have a gearbox and wet clutch shearing the oil down. The bypass filtration systems keep the oil VERY clean, and since you are still changing the filters every 10,000 or so, the quart or two that you are adding replenishes the additive package. I know of guys running such systems on the Chevy Duramax that have not changed their oil in 60,000 miles and the lab reports come back that the oil is still good.



Synthetic oil is an engine saver... not a money saver.
Rich you should write a book "The ask Rich Motorcycle Handbook" you have a wealth of knowledge regarding so many aspects of the Motorcycle you should try changing that knowledge into $$$$$$.

(You dont happen to know a way I can buy a new Motorcycle a keep my Wife happy do you?)
 

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Rich you should write a book "The ask Rich Motorcycle Handbook" you have a wealth of knowledge regarding so many aspects of the Motorcycle you should try changing that knowledge into $$$$$$.

(You dont happen to know a way I can buy a new Motorcycle a keep my Wife happy do you?)
THAT is a loaded question...LOL!!!
 

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Rich you should write a book "The ask Rich Motorcycle Handbook" you have a wealth of knowledge regarding so many aspects of the Motorcycle you should try changing that knowledge into $$$$$$.

(You dont happen to know a way I can buy a new Motorcycle a keep my Wife happy do you?)
Nahh... I didn't pay for what I learned... picked it up from wrenching vehicles since I was old enough to hold a wrench (I think I was 3 when my dad had me help him change the oil in their old '53 Buick), so I wouldn't feel right profiting from it.

That's what the forum is for... sharing information.
 
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