When you turn the key to the "on" position now, does anything happen? Do you get power anywhere? If so, then where? If you're getting power somewhere, then does the starter work at all? Did you check all the fuses after this latest incident?
If your starter is working, then I doubt the problem is in your starter circuit. I also don't think the problem is related to your kickstand switch. My '85 will start with the stand down and I have completely O.E.M. wiring. It will even keep running in gear with the stand down after you release the clutch lever.....something a modern sportbike won't do. Your kickstand warning bulb is probably burned out.....like mine. Your bike won't start unless it's in neutral and the clutch lever is released, however.thanks gpz600,
I am pretty sure you are correct and there are no capacitors. About what I heard, I am not really sure about it and I was going relatively fast so there was a lot of sound. It was probably more my impression than anything.
I will unplug the kickstand switch. I don't think the bike should not run if the kickstand is open but I will anyway, one less thing to worry about.
About the starter circuit, I went through it before on another thread. the manual shows 3 relays in the box, I know most of the time (and as you report) there are only two. I am talking about the round ones, excluding the turn signal one (which is missing in my case anyway).
So I have two relays and I don't know what they are. Actually, one is the main relay for sure, don't know if the other one is the starter circuit relay of the headlight relay. They are both present in the manual but I only have one. I know sometimes is written on the junction cover but that's not the case with mine. I bypassed it anyway because the switch I installed just gives 12V to the starter relay and that makes the starter work.
The main realy is working because I get the neutral and oil light when I turn the ignition switch.
About the junction box, I opened it and even opened the tracks and cleaned it inside. there could be something wrong with that, although the bike was working for a while after I reinstalled it. After I was done installing the switch to make the bike start, I noticed the corrosion, cleaned the box, reinstalled it, and the bike was working. I went around that day, stopped and started a few times and then it would not start again. Waited 30 mins or so and it started back up.
I then used it for a couple of days with no problems, and now it stopped and when I tried this morning it still did not start. That's where we are.
Just be patient. It might take a while, but you'll get it figured out. Let us know what you find.I have not checked the IC igniter, the bike is currently parked in a gas station, I am trying to get it back home, probably tomorrow. I took the juction box out, I will open that again now given that it was the last thing I touched before having the problem. I hope I will find something there.
That is the most likely failure. All modern ignitions use some kind of electronic sensor and electronic ignition (like CDI). They can and do fail. Also, the sensors that sends the signal to the unit from the crankshaft also fail.I have not checked the IC igniter,
That's good, but you still have an intermittent that makes your bike go dead at random times. It might be a wire or connector in the harness. I had the same problem with my CDI (random times the bike would not start). I finally repalced the connector at the unit and wires into the harness and that fixed it. YMMVthanks for the answers guys, I will do what's suggested. I already put contact cleaner on every connector I could find about a month ago. I need to clean the ignition switch and I am thinking about changing all the wires.
I can find the entire wire system from a working bike so I am thinking about replacing the all thing and the junction box. Hopefully that will take care of it. I was happy the bike started again yesterday, so nothing is burned fortunately.