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Old Man Riding
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LOL - J/K - it's probably gonna be okay - SOMEDAY. :)

Seriously, I bought a 2006 650R Ninja - Black w/red frame. It looks just great, and it feels great - BUT - it won't run. :) See - I told you I bought a boat anchor.

Anyway, I've tried getting it started for a week with no luck. Here's the history:
The guy stopped riding it when his wife got pregnant, and never got back on it. After 9-10 months, he tried to start it, and it won't start. He put a new battery in it, but still no luck. It only has 670 miles on it, and looks like it's never been ridden.

Here's what I know so far:
- I bought a battery tender, so I can keep the battery charged.
- I pulled the tank off, and checked the gas flow from the fuel pump, and it pumps pretty well, so I guess it's fine. I didn't measure anything, so I really don't know.
- It turns over with no problem.
- Occassionally, it will attempt to start. Once the tach indicated almost 1000 rpm's, but then it went back to just turning over without sounding like it would crank.
- I've drained the tank, and replaced with new 93 octane gas.
- I've used Seafoam in the tank.
- I've sprayed starting fluid in the throttle-body while the tank was off, replaced everything and tried starting again, but nothing really.
- I've done a couple of checks, like the FI light comes on for 1-2 seconds, then goes off. This is normal per the service manual. SOMETIMES, the FI light will come back on.
- A couple of times it has back-fired - not sure if this is bad or good.

This weekend I plan to remove the fuel injectors and inspect (not sure what I'm looking for exactly - other than some type of gunk causing the injector not to work). I also plan to remove the 2 plugs. I can't imagine that they need replacing at 670 miles, but I'll inspect them. I intend to shoot 1 single shot of starting fluid in each cylinder when the plugs are out. Not sure if this'll help or not.

If none of that works, I'm gonna be out of ideas in a hurry. At that point I'll need to schedule just taking it to the dealer and letting them fix it. I'd take it to the dealer already, but I kinda like tinkering with things.

Anyway, if you guys have some ideas, or a list of DO's and DON'Ts, then I'd appreciate hearing them.

I know - I know - I'll get pics later. I gotta get this thing running first. :)
 

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Have you pulled a plug to check for spark or the presence of fuel?
I think I'd start there before you get into the injection bits..
 

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careful using the starter fluid, It will dry out the cylinder walls in a hurry. I did catch that you said 1 shot in each cylinder, so it sounds like your aware already.
 

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Old Man Riding
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Great news!! The boat anchor has started and runs great. :)

I gave up tring to start it, so I:
-drained the tank (once again) and removed
-removed the throttle body housing (I think that's what it's called)
- removed the plugs
- checked the plugs for spark, and they both had it

At this point I was scratching my head. The plugs looked wet (probably fouled out even) with some carbon build up. The butterflies seemed to be opening as expected. Everything seemed like it was fine, but why wouldn't it start?

-Sprayed 1 shot of starter fluid in each cylinder
- Sprayed another shot in each throttle body (probably shouldn't have done that - but hey - I'm a computer geek, not a mechanic
- Put it all back together
- Tried cranking - and NOTHING
- Scratched head a lot at this point

Well I hooked the battery tender back up for awhile while I was thinking of any next steps, or what I must be missing. Finally, I tried it once again, and she cranked right up. Wow - the beast lives!

It was pretty relieving to know that my expensive boat anchor might now become a joy to me. I rode it up and down the street a few times, came back and put the farings back on, and then rode it a few more times. Seems to have some get up and go. Well - I'm relieved. So I guess the risk of buying a bike that doesn't run is okay sometimes.
 

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Doc, I need a road trip!
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Great news!! The boat anchor has started and runs great. :)

I gave up tring to start it, so I:
-drained the tank (once again) and removed
-removed the throttle body housing (I think that's what it's called)
- removed the plugs
- checked the plugs for spark, and they both had it

At this point I was scratching my head. The plugs looked wet (probably fouled out even) with some carbon build up. The butterflies seemed to be opening as expected. Everything seemed like it was fine, but why wouldn't it start?

-Sprayed 1 shot of starter fluid in each cylinder
- Sprayed another shot in each throttle body (probably shouldn't have done that - but hey - I'm a computer geek, not a mechanic
- Put it all back together
- Tried cranking - and NOTHING
- Scratched head a lot at this point

Well I hooked the battery tender back up for awhile while I was thinking of any next steps, or what I must be missing. Finally, I tried it once again, and she cranked right up. Wow - the beast lives!

It was pretty relieving to know that my expensive boat anchor might now become a joy to me. I rode it up and down the street a few times, came back and put the farings back on, and then rode it a few more times. Seems to have some get up and go. Well - I'm relieved. So I guess the risk of buying a bike that doesn't run is okay sometimes.
That's awesome, glad you got it running. Now before you do lots of riding, I would as stated dump your oil and change it. With trying to start it numerious times and with it not starting, you could very well have fuel mixed in your oil. Congrats on not giving up and getting it started!!
 

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Old Man Riding
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Yeh - I think I'll take your advice on that. I don't plan to ride it for a few days. I wanted to change the oil/filter simply due to the fact that it's sat there so long. He had just had the 500 mile service 170 miles ago, but that was a year ago. :) Oil/filter are cheap compared to the alternative. Probably do that next weekend.

I throw some pics up by next weekend. It's pretty dusty after sitting up so long.

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I was a little unsure of myself most of the way. :) Great board.

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Edit:
Well - I do have some pics of one NASTY looking bike here:
http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i92/tigerdude77/My%202006%20Kawasaki%20650R/

And some vids attempting to start it here:

YouTube - Starting My 2006 Kawasaki 650R

YouTube - Starting My 2006 Kawasaki 650R part 2
 

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Glad you got it fired up.
Did you hook up the tender so you can plug the bike into it while you're not riding?
 

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Aren't you glad you took my advice? ;) You got a cheap non running bike and there wasn't anything wrong with it.

Congrats!
 

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Old Man Riding
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Glad you got it fired up.
Did you hook up the tender so you can plug the bike into it while you're not riding?
Actually I did do that. I wired it such that it's safely tucked away under the seat while riding, and it's easy to hook up when not in use.

Pics later - it's really dusty right now. Needs a good bath and some TLC.

Hey - another question:
I noticed that on low-beam, that only ONE headlamp works. On hi-beam, they both work okay. Is that one lamp burned out, or is it supposed to be that way?
 

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Actually I did do that. I wired it such that it's safely tucked away under the seat while riding, and it's easy to hook up when not in use.

Pics later - it's really dusty right now. Needs a good bath and some TLC.

Hey - another question:
I noticed that on low-beam, that only ONE headlamp works. On hi-beam, they both work okay. Is that one lamp burned out, or is it supposed to be that way?
Nope, it's normal. Only one on low beam. Mine is the same way. Just tell people you're lop-sided! :)
 

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LOL - thanks. I would never have thought that would be like that, but a riding buddy told me to check that out prior to buying a new bulb. D'oh.
 

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Believe me - it wasn't easy. Financially or with the wife - especially since it would not even run. I got such a great deal that I just couldn't pass it up. The guy was moving to Las Vegas in about a week, and this was my only opportunity to leave town to get the bike, so I just reacted quicker than I wanted to. I still need to sell that Suzuki. My garage is pretty packed right now, and my bank account is non-existent. Probably a bad decision on my part, but I felt pretty good about this decision, and it was exactly what I've been looking at for several months. I've been pretty stressed since I bought it. My wife and daughter have been laughing at my ignorance for about a week. It's a tough crowd at my house. :) But - now it's my turn to laugh at them. LOL
 
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