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Mark in Houston
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I bought my 900 used, and adjusted the little dial until the lever felt like it fit my hand. After 7k miles, the front brake got mushy, so I dialed it to a "1" instead of a "3" and my brakes are fine.

So...what is the deal with the dial? Should I have my brakes fixed?
 

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Well the brake pads do wear down with usage so it will change the feel of the brake, but I think the dial is more to let folks adjust the reach to fit their hand.

Every couple of years you should change the brake fluid -it will make quite a difference in the feel of the brakes, not sure how old/how many miles that used 900 has on it -but you might look into that for sure ;)
 

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Mark in Houston
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I was orginally going to replace the brake fluid, thinking that was the problem, but since my problem was cured by spinning a wheel, I've put that off. (All the bike shops are closed on Monday)
I may try a brake fluid change this week to see what happens.
 

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Mark in Houston
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Also...why isn't there an adjustment for the reach on the clutch lever?
 

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P.S. I have 8k miles on my bike but did turtle it in the driveway a month ago.
(don't ask)
 

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I bought my 900 used, and adjusted the little dial until the lever felt like it fit my hand. After 7k miles, the front brake got mushy, so I dialed it to a "1" instead of a "3" and my brakes are fine.

So...what is the deal with the dial? Should I have my brakes fixed?
Guys (like me) with short fingers. I'm a wrench, not a pianist!
 

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Superb little safety device! What it does is makes the brake lever "mushier", so that when you first get on the bike, you can't grab a fistful of brake and highside the thing, your braking is just naturally a bit smoother, in the initial stages of grabbing the lever. Use it, then lose it! once you get used to braking your bike gradually decrease the sponginess of the lever, and get the full effects of your brakes.
 

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Superb little safety device! What it does is makes the brake lever "mushier", so that when you first get on the bike, you can't grab a fistful of brake and highside the thing, your braking is just naturally a bit smoother, in the initial stages of grabbing the lever. Use it, then lose it! once you get used to braking your bike gradually decrease the sponginess of the lever, and get the full effects of your brakes.
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All it does is move the lever closer or further from the grip for those with short or long fingers.

The brake should NEVER be "mushy"... if it is, it's time to change the fluid... it's contaminated or has bubbles in it.
 

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All it does is move the lever closer or further from the grip for those with short or long fingers.

The brake should NEVER be "mushy"... if it is, it's time to change the fluid... it's contaminated or has bubbles in it.
Perhaps I've used a vernacular, that is incorrect in the idiom of your country, "mushier" was perhaps a poor choice of word. Between the settings, (1-5) the lever moves towards the handlebar grip no more than 4mm's which in my opinion would not help anyone with short fingers very much at all when putting the brakes on. The beauty of the system is that by a slight change in the leverage angle, it makes the effort required to apply the brake at it's extreme outward end less, and the travel to full brake longer (hence my reference to "sponginess"), thereby ensuring that there is more time and grip pressure required to stop the front wheel from turning, therby reducing the brake effectiveness in the first part of the action, and eliminating to some extent the "panic" pull, these adjustable brake levers have been around for at least 20 years, from my recollection, and the above explanation was always the reason for their developement finger length effects notwithstanding.
 

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Between the settings, (1-5) the lever moves towards the handlebar grip no more than 4mm's which in my opinion would not help anyone with short fingers very much at all when putting the brakes on.
I couldn't disagree more. It may only be 4mm, but when you are riding (for me at least) I can feel every little nuance of the bike. At the fuilly extended position that lever feels like it's a hundred miles away, even though it's only 4mm. I moved the angle of my clutch lever once - just a touch - and it made all the difference in the world to how the bike "felt" to me as I gripped the bars. Ergonomics aside, little changes make a big difference.
Signed -the short-fingered one.
 

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I was thinking the exact same thing. How hard could it be to do the same on the other side? Seems silly not to have one.
The clutch is operated via cable and link, and there is plenty of scope for adjustment, however it'll require the use of some tools, and you'll want to have a good feel for the operation of the clutch.
 

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I changed my brake fluid and bled it good and it still "bottoms out" if I set the dial on 3 or more. Brake pads show plenty left. When I set on position 1, it feels too wide for my short digits (fingers) but it will grab and hold on.

I want to get the grab, but with the dial at 3. I agree 4mm (if that is all it is) isn't much but it feels like a lot!
 

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I changed my brake fluid and bled it good and it still "bottoms out" if I set the dial on 3 or more. Brake pads show plenty left. When I set on position 1, it feels too wide for my short digits (fingers) but it will grab and hold on.

I want to get the grab, but with the dial at 3. I agree 4mm (if that is all it is) isn't much but it feels like a lot!
Mark, the one thing that comes to mind...is the piston in the housing fully returning to it's full-open position, giving you a full stroke? I have mine set at the closest (shortest throw) setting and lock the front at about 1/4" from the grip.
 

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Mark, the one thing that comes to mind...is the piston in the housing fully returning to it's full-open position, giving you a full stroke? I have mine set at the closest (shortest throw) setting and lock the front at about 1/4" from the grip.
After 2 years of experimenting at different settings, I can tell you that your findings agree with my own.
 

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It may not be...how do I tell? It feels like should be able to push the piston some more, but I can't unless it is set on dial 1. Sound like a MC job?
 

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It may not be...how do I tell? It feels like should be able to push the piston some more, but I can't unless it is set on dial 1. Sound like a MC job?
I have had the very same problems with my front brake since the bike was new. I even went to S.S braided lines and still any setting other than #1 feels spongy.
As long as my brake is on #1 the they work rock solid. Your not alone.
 
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