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Location: Gardner, KS
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:47 am

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If you need brake pads, or any parts, it's always nice to have them hanging on the wall. I say order them through Beartooth Kawasaki. Ordering them through a warehouse does us no good when we need dealers that depend upon us to support them and keep them open. Otherwise we might as well shut down all dealers and just order direct through one franchize owner (Kawasaki motorcycles would be California (I'm pretty sure) then we could set around and wait for our bikes to arrive and then but all the tools required to do valve adjustments, carb repair kist, order and install tires ourselves, rebuild Everything like mastercylinders, clutches, replace camshafts, bearings, timing chains...Listen to the disposable society out ther and we won't end up saving a buck or two on some parts, but in the big picture end up losing the dealerships that we have. I may be picking on some of you on the forum, but what we have from Beartooth Kawasaki is a Forum not only for fun and passing information, but an international community of people sharing about their dealers and who is/isn't a rip-off dealership giving dealers a bad name. Beartooth has done nothing wrong in my book. They have been nothing but Perfect in getting everything that I wanted or desired and had it shipped to me way ahead of their "guess-timated" arrival date. Yeah save 45 cents on a plug...Shame on you for even saying or thinking it, worse yet putting it in writing on a Forum supported and given freely for us to use...Sorry about the Soapbox, but sometimes I get real upset with people trying to save a half-dollar. If you want cheap, get some flip-flops and walk!

This was a partial response that I posted! Yes I get a little hot, but it is with good cause and intention. The mark up on a motorcycle won't keep a dealership in business. It takes Tires, Batteries and accessories (old days phrase), for them to keep their doors open to us. I don't want to end up having to order parts and wait for them to arrive from Japan when I need them now. I want to see bikes on the showroom floor and crowds of people flocking and setting on bikes and ordering all sorts of parts and accessories. I'm NOT a dealer, or owner, just a litle old man doing the best I can to survive on a Government pension. I've seen businesses close because of Super Walmarts, and such. I would ask every individual on the Forum to suport the Forum and the Sponsor Beartooth Kawasaki. My dealer is way off the market base and wants nearly $2,000 over retail for the same bike listed at Beartooth. Will I try to negotiate with them...NO! They want to rob me in the beginning, then charge an outrageous fee for my 600 and on checkups, an dthen insult me with their extended service plan. Because we are a no Helmit State I don't even get a helmet thrown in when I buy one from the shop. Talk about money grubbing one arm bandits. I could buy a one way ticket from Kansas City too Near Beartooth Kawasaki, Red Lodge, MT and then ride it home all the while enjoying some awesome roads for less than what these guys want. UNreal. There ought to be something that Kawasaki should be doing to visit these shops...but in the end they won't be able to keep their doors open. A serious shame for our community, and unnecessary if they were being up front and honest with thier pricing. Perthaps they will sell enough Kawasakis, Hondas, suzukis, Polaris, Victory and other gear, to keep thier doors open, but when it comes to supporting a dealer that is seriously price gouging the public...it is wrong.
 

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GP Racing

With GP Racing coming back to the United States, I'd like to see 125 and 250 motorcycles change in designation. We could still have the EX250/Ninja 250R, add in the ZZR-250, and still ad in a ZX250R, or GPz250R adn make some serious bikes here in The USof A. Same goes for the 125cc Class. Why waste our Technological edge and education/R&D/ and Programs just to have to bring in Special bikes? We have the technology and plants set up so that it wouldn't be tough to do. Racing versions, changing the timing from street (detuded) to full blown racing machines, bringing America back into the thick of racing. It's almost a waste to see what is going on overseas compared to the non-existant programs that we do not have going on here. Manufactures could bring together some circuits and even use them to teach schools for racing and make things happen here in America. We need the tracks for education and that would further support the building of these tracks, the R&D for new items, and bring in new tried and tested equipment into our grasp for the street. We would most likely find that racing on the streets would become less and that there would be many people interested in real track racing. Maybe the manufactures want to keep all this out of the US market and keep us on antiquated EX250/Ninja250R bikes instead of allowing us to use 17" tires and aluminum chassis on the ZZR-250 or perhaps a GPz250 class bike...all I understand is that GP racing is going to happen, and we won't have anything in place for those of us that wish to race. What a shame...
 

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I believe Kawasaki is offering to any "Joe Smoe" if he owns a '03 or newer bike and races at certain events he/she will get paid. They even have payment for 20th place in some races. Heres how to find it...

Go to Kawasaki.com, click on "motorcycles", go to Motorsports, when the tab comes down go to "Contingency." They have road racing, drag racing, off road, and ATV.
 

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RACING

Thanks Green Knight! My attack on the industry is that they have smaller bikes capable, and even cheaper for some amateurs to get into...yet they only are released overseas or even across our border. I want to see some serious street-sport bikes released here in an almost GP ready to race bike much like the ZX-6RR (599cc), or the ZX-10R. Why not make the 125cc or 250cc bikes available to us? I don't want the costs/expenses involved with a larger more powerful bike. I want it to be more rider than machine...perhaps Kawasaki is not ready for this...
 

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Re: RACING

ZX-2R said:
Thanks Green Knight! My attack on the industry is that they have smaller bikes capable, and even cheaper for some amateurs to get into...yet they only are released overseas or even across our border. I want to see some serious street-sport bikes released here in an almost GP ready to race bike much like the ZX-6RR (599cc), or the ZX-10R. Why not make the 125cc or 250cc bikes available to us? I don't want the costs/expenses involved with a larger more powerful bike. I want it to be more rider than machine...perhaps Kawasaki is not ready for this...
Between all the regulatory agencies and the sales numbers game, bet you that has a big part!

What the heck. I'll put up my hand and say I'd get one! Acutally looking into an Aprillia RS250, Honda NSR250 or possibly a Yamaha TZ250.
 

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I hear you!

I've seen the Apirila on the web lots of times...I know some one with a full bike 1Liter bags and all...definately a nice bike...can't imaging the 125 even although I haven't been over to Missouri to see one. I know that with the knobbies on the Suzuki TS250 it is a serious handful on blacktop. I'm not into dirt racing anymore, but hte blacktop is really slick and the tires have no grip so I end up with some pretty serious power slides on occasion...when the road that I take is completely clear andI turn north on another...what an awesome feeling to know that you are powering your way around a corner. I plan on putting street tires on it...but hopefully I'll have a Kawasaki within the next two months.......otherwise I'll be waiting till spring...or buying a new one and having it shipped out to me...I still haven't decided which model that I want, that's how bad I am. I'm a big fan of the 250R, and although haven't said much about the 500R it would make a serious bike, so would the ZZR-600, or maybe/perhaps the ZX-6R... And I suppose that if I had the income the ZZR-1200 would be a nice bike to park in the barn with a couple of others...
 
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