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Hello Everyone,

I am trying to ascertain where (outside of Japan) Kawasaki may have production facilities for motorcycles. Specifically I would like to know if Kawasaki MANUFACTURERS or ASSEMBLES Vulcans (900 cc and above) anywhere outside of Japan. The reason is that I am trying to locate a production hub closest to my country of domicile - and knowing where they make the bikes helps in planning how to import one.:smile:
 

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Hi A2Rider - Thanks for that ! I will look it up. Basically my country loves throwing hurdles in ones path when it comes to importing motorcycles - they have some psychological blockage where this is concerned. Almost like we are not to be permitted to enjoy the commute. Its bizarre. So, in addition to almost insurmountable obstacles created vis a vis Import policy, one has to source the machine from country of manufacture. US prices, by the way, are the BEST in the world for most motorcycles - amazing. Thanks will look it up.
 

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That seems weird that India would not import from Japan.
 

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The Vulcans are all imported.
I believe they make the ATVs and PWCs in Nebraska. Not sure about the sportbikes.
 

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Absolutely, it is weird. You see, there is no law Stopping one from importing from Japan - but the attached designed (by Indian authorities) complications make it essential to be able to freely and frequently communicate with the shipper in a mutually understandable language - I tried to do this in Japan and its very difficult. There is a mile long paperwork required, and also one has to be very precise with the co-ordination. We have customs duty of 60% on CIF value + 25 % CVD on that value + various other cess and tax and what have you before you can get the vehicle in your hands. Therefore MSRP is very important too - the higher you buy it for the higher you pay duty on it. Japan is expensive - believe it or not - more expensive than the USA. My best quote from a US dealer (cannot say who because they requested confidentiality) was US $ 6,800 for a Vulcan 900 Classic. By any estimates comparing MSRP anywhere in the world including Japan, thats a competitive price. Freight from the USA is not that much - Japan is almost as expensive and the chances of a screwup in paperwork is higher on account of the language barrier. Besides, currently the US $ exchange rate is favorable to me. All these factors make it very important to be able to source in the USA.
 

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Hi Rich,

Thats unfortunate. I was hoping they assembled them in the USA. Perhaps since its a manufacturing facility, I might be able to swing it. Made contact with Nebraska thanks to A2rider's information. Am awaiting their reply.
 

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Hi Rich,

Thats unfortunate. I was hoping they assembled them in the USA. Perhaps since its a manufacturing facility, I might be able to swing it. Made contact with Nebraska thanks to A2rider's information. Am awaiting their reply.
What about buying a used bike? Usually the duties and taxes are a lot less on something used. You might be able to find a dealer or individual that would ship to you. Would that be easier?
 

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What about buying a used bike? Usually the duties and taxes are a lot less on something used. You might be able to find a dealer or individual that would ship to you. Would that be easier?
Actually, you would think so wouldn't you ? :smile: but in my country, in politics (its the politicians that make all these rules you see) the commodity conspicuous by its absence, is Common Sense. You can import a second hand, but it has to be maximum 3 years old (I dont have a problem with that as it stops people from dumping junk here) BUT .... they won't accept the price you paid for it. They will take the LIST price in the year of manufacture from the NADA book, apply 4% depreciation per quarter for year one. 3% per quarter for year 2 and I think 3 % again for year 3. so thats 16% + 12% +12% = a generous 40 % depreciation on LIST price . But then comes the corker - you get hit 149% COMPOUNDED duty on CIF valued price for used bikes !!!

This actually makes (I did the costing) a 2006 Vulcan 900 MORE expensive landed and taxes paid here in India, than a NEW Vulcan 900 2008 by about US $ 1,000 . Aint that the strangest thang ? :shock:

Its completely messed up man. The system for bike imports here is a mess . The import laws for motorcycles is so because of the powerful manufacturing lobby here - they make 100 - 220 cc bikes here (decent stuff no doubt) but their Dog in the Manger mentality wont let higher end motorcycles in - its just being greedy.
Neither do the local manufactures have the capability, technology or interest in addressing this market segment... but they wont let anyone else do it fairly either. So the blighters lobby heavily, pay the politicians, who are bloated old codgers who probably have never sat on a bike in their whole lives, to completely mess up the import laws for motorcycles.

So used bikes - the costing is a problem. Also we need a certificate - something called a TYPE APPROVAL CERTIFICATE EU standards. Only then will Customs clear the bike.

So I am facing an uphill task for sure . but a biker at heart is a biker at heart - gotta try till i'm beat. Cant let the codgers best me....got to figure it out somehow; there has GOT to be a loophole somewhere - something those old fogies have not thought about.:|
 

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I'm pretty sure there used to be a plant in Atlanta.
 

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I'm pretty sure there used to be a plant in Atlanta.
I think they have 2 plants in the USA . One of them makes the engines that go into all their products - Power gens , mules, atvs and jetskis and the other buys the engines and makes the final products.

But as rightly pointed out by Rich earlier, they don't seem to make the bikes in the USA.
 

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"Did you know there were 130718 Z1 and KZ900 models produced? Of these, 21344 were produced in the USA at the Kawasaki factory in Lincoln Nebraska ..."

From an article I found.
 

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Hey Ocean Breeze...are you an Indian citizen or an alien living in India? If you are a foreigner then you can buy a used buy bike in your country of citizenship and tell the customs it's your personal item you have been using for years and bring it to India without any taxes. Also talk to your country's consulate in India. They always bring cars and bikes for their use and sell it to the State Trading Corporation in New Delhi if they are not taking it back. Indian citizens can then buy these after paying the right taxes but as a non-citizen you may be able to buy these vehicles without taxes. 50 years of socialism can be a biaaatch!!! Yamaha sells small bikes in India but not the supersports or cruisers. They are going to sell the R1 starting this year and hold your breath folks...it costs the equivalent of USD 25,000 in current foreign exchange rates!!!
 

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Hey Ocean Breeze...are you an Indian citizen or an alien living in India? If you are a foreigner then you can buy a used buy bike in your country of citizenship and tell the customs it's your personal item you have been using for years and bring it to India without any taxes. Also talk to your country's consulate in India. They always bring cars and bikes for their use and sell it to the State Trading Corporation in New Delhi if they are not taking it back. Indian citizens can then buy these after paying the right taxes but as a non-citizen you may be able to buy these vehicles without taxes. 50 years of socialism can be a biaaatch!!! Yamaha sells small bikes in India but not the supersports or cruisers. They are going to sell the R1 starting this year and hold your breath folks...it costs the equivalent of USD 25,000 in current foreign exchange rates!!!
:eek: Ouch.
 

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Kartshan - no, am an Indian citizen - I know that other way - but unfortunately cant use it. Thanks though, and you are very well informed; its true that 50 years of PSEUDO-socialism has caused the problem of perception. But in almost EVERY other sphere the country has moved forward - import duties on thousands of things are slashed in more than half; complicated permit regime has been virtually dismantled except for areas of national and strategic interest like Petroleum, Pharma and Defense ; process for approvals for businesses etc have been relaxed; Income tax has been reduced by raising minimum tax limits; and a host of other reforms which the country is very committed to. Sadly, some areas have just been plain left out - on account of local manufacturers having good spin doctors and politicians being either "persuaded" or entirely ignorant of the facts. Motorcycles are one of the areas in which the Country is lagging FAR behind in policy. If the same open thinking which has literally blasted our economy into the stratosphere over the past few years, could only be applied to areas such as this, it would be wonderful. I have initiated a petition from bikers all across the country - trying to get it off the ground, where we challenge the position of the government in this regard. Who knows what a small start like that can achieve ?
 

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I'm an Indian citizen studying in the US! I still read the likes of Overdrive and Autocar India!!! I don' t think it's the local manufacturers trying to stifle the competition from overseas. All the local makes had a collaborative effort with one of the Big 4 from Japan at some point in time. Now that Suzuki, Honda and Yamaha have their own subsidiary companies, I think it is just the market that dictates the products. They can always bring completely knocked down kits (CKDs) and assemble the bikes locally to reduce the import duty. If they think there is money in something they will start selling it. For example, even if they sell an R1 for the equivalent of US $10000 (approximately what it costs here) I don't see too many people buying that bike. It still costs twice as much as the cheapest car and about 10 -15 times the cheapest 100cc bike.

I think it's a problem with the file pushers and the pinko commies who still have power. They want to keep the people poor so they can keep ruling them. India is the only democratic country that will elect even the commies to power. They are the people who still think that a bike is a luxury and hence the 150% customs duty! Your petition is a good step towards something. It will take a lot more than a few thousand signatures to put sense into some of our great leaders. I hope we can send a few Hells Angels members to have a talk with them.

Anyway....good luck with your campaign and keep your eyes open. I heard there are a lot people importing bikes in Bangalore and Mumbai. Keep trying to snag a good deal and don't leave the BTK forum. Good place, good people. You'll never know what'll come up your way.
 

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And I forgot to add the tree huggers in my previous. Add to them to the mix and we'll never see the day when some of the best bikes in the world will be running on Indian roads. I heard there is a spandex crowd in Bangalore already. They all have Trek mountain bikes and ride their way to work!!! That will be a sight to see.
 
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