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Cool...Just came from the dealership where I got my 10R and TTR 125 LE...I sat on the KX250...Just way to tall for me...I am not into the jumps and stuff and power....I ride a 10R for that....I just want a cool trail bike that goes fast and is a great height for me...The KX 100 is it!!!!! I sat on it and just sat on it at lunch and was talking to my buddy and the guy who sold me the last two bikes...He is a dirbiker...He said though I am experienced on bikes the seat height could be a problem...He suggested a few 34 inch seat height bikes and said the KX 100 is the bike he would get...He has a KX450...I am sold...My wife gave me the ok to get another dirtbike which is for ME and she gets the TTR 125LE...So I am good now...I am sold. I could see myself really enjoying that bike.
 

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Sounds like fun if you want it too play around on...like you said you have your streetbike for power and speed and its not like you will be racing mx...go for it and have fun riding with your wife!!!
 

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My son rides one, an 06. It's been great so far. We are the 3rd owners but that was within 4 months of being bought. The first kid was scared of it, the second had to move and they had smoked a bearing. So it was rebuilt with hotrods crank, rod and Wiseco piston.

They run great stock and when you get a pipe, silencer and Vforce reeds, look out, they fly. Also the stock set up on the suspension is very stiff, soften them up and pull out out alot of compression and rebound before hitting the trails or track. Then tune it for your weight.
 

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Sounds like fun if you want it too play around on...like you said you have your streetbike for power and speed and its not like you will be racing mx...go for it and have fun riding with your wife!!!
Thanks that is good assurance. I just want to trail ride and just take it quick enough to get a thrill and have fun...Jumps who knows but I will always try hahahaha. But yeah, for speed I am set on my 10R. Racing MX at 37 is not my dream or desire for sure. Thank you for giving me real perspective. :smile:
 

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My son rides one, an 06. It's been great so far. We are the 3rd owners but that was within 4 months of being bought. The first kid was scared of it, the second had to move and they had smoked a bearing. So it was rebuilt with hotrods crank, rod and Wiseco piston.

They run great stock and when you get a pipe, silencer and Vforce reeds, look out, they fly. Also the stock set up on the suspension is very stiff, soften them up and pull out out alot of compression and rebound before hitting the trails or track. Then tune it for your weight.
That is good to know...The dealership that sold me the last two bikes said the same thing...I do not want something so loud that it kills me. Oh yeah...When I get hold of a bike, stock is the last thing it remains hahahaha. I will definitely keep your suggestions on my board...I always want something riding tip top and good. Suspension was something I was going to look into as well...I am not light 190lbs...I will see how it rides before I do that part of it. I like stiff on my street bike but stiff on dirt is another thing. Thanks for the suggestions and kudos for the bike!
 

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Hi Ervins,
Just giving another point of view here.
My son is 14 yrs old(very experianced rider) but was a bit shorter than optimum.He weighs about 110 lbs.Previously raced a 85 and a supermini(big wheel rm105)
This past season he did real well on a 06 kx 125 that was lowered .
You are in the heart of mx country being from California. Lots of great suspension places that could set you up really well for weight and ride heaight. At 190 lbs I personally thing the suspension on a 125 would be way better for you and could be set up perfectly.
Consider that many young girls in the ladies class switch from 100's to 125's/250F's and find it way more comfortable,smoother,and more stable in rough stuff. ....and many of them are not very big(many even use a block for their foot on the starting gate).All mx bike feel huge and intimidating if people are unfamiliar with them

Just something to consider before you purchase,but either way ,I'm sure it is best to do what you feel most comfortable on.Happy dirt biking!
 

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Hi Ervins,
Just giving another point of view here.
My son is 14 yrs old(very experianced rider) but was a bit shorter than optimum.He weighs about 110 lbs.Previously raced a 85 and a supermini(big wheel rm105)
This past season he did real well on a 06 kx 125 that was lowered .
You are in the heart of mx country being from California. Lots of great suspension places that could set you up really well for weight and ride heaight. At 190 lbs I personally thing the suspension on a 125 would be way better for you and could be set up perfectly.
Consider that many young girls in the ladies class switch from 100's to 125's/250F's and find it way more comfortable,smoother,and more stable in rough stuff. ....and many of them are not very big(many even use a block for their foot on the starting gate).All mx bike feel huge and intimidating if people are unfamiliar with them

Just something to consider before you purchase,but either way ,I'm sure it is best to do what you feel most comfortable on.Happy dirt biking!
Thanks...The seat height is what is killing me...I sat on a 250 and 450 and it was tall...Really tall. I was literally MAXED tip toe...It felt uncomfortable...Really bad...Got on a 100 and I was felt good. The weight can be an issue for sure...Since street is where I am coming from, I do not see myself do anything adventurous for a bit on the bike...A little air would be nice but that is not my thing...I wave always been into twisties on the street and when I used to downhill and mountain bike. I love turns...You are right, I am still evaluating bikes that are a tad bigger but the ones that are in the 36inch height area are dual sports. Gosh 36 inch seat height would have been great....The CRF150R large wheel was another option but it just a feather shorter so that does not help me and I really hate on HONDA bikes. The new KLX250s which is a dual sport is 35 inches high but also weights 280lbs...That is nothing compared to my 10R which is 400 but would like to stay under 200lbs for a bike right now. I mean I could see getting on a 37 inch 250 but just as in the street, I want to focus on the riding more than the seat height...It is tough for me really...
 

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Hi Ervins,
Just giving another point of view here.
My son is 14 yrs old(very experianced rider) but was a bit shorter than optimum.He weighs about 110 lbs.Previously raced a 85 and a supermini(big wheel rm105)
This past season he did real well on a 06 kx 125 that was lowered .
You are in the heart of mx country being from California. Lots of great suspension places that could set you up really well for weight and ride heaight. At 190 lbs I personally thing the suspension on a 125 would be way better for you and could be set up perfectly.
Consider that many young girls in the ladies class switch from 100's to 125's/250F's and find it way more comfortable,smoother,and more stable in rough stuff. ....and many of them are not very big(many even use a block for their foot on the starting gate).All mx bike feel huge and intimidating if people are unfamiliar with them

Just something to consider before you purchase,but either way ,I'm sure it is best to do what you feel most comfortable on.Happy dirt biking!

Your answer will help me as well...How did he lower...Forks and lowering link on the rear?
 

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Wow, 190, I think the bike will be too small. The power will be enough for what you want to do but the suspension is made for smaller riders like mine and Sledders.

I'm 6' and about 170 and his is way too small. Granted I'm an experienced rider but when I'm playing on his I have to be careful on jumps and Whoops.

You need a 125 smoker or 250 4-stroke. The ride will be 1000x better.
 

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Wow, 190, I think the bike will be too small. The power will be enough for what you want to do but the suspension is made for smaller riders like mine and Sledders.

I'm 6' and about 170 and his is way too small. Granted I'm an experienced rider but when I'm playing on his I have to be careful on jumps and Whoops.

You need a 125 smoker or 250 4-stroke. The ride will be 1000x better.
That is the concern one of my buddies has...He said see if you can get a fat kid spring kit for the bike and I was thinking OMG more mods...Like my 10R does not get enough mods now another bike...I am 5'7" if that helps. Broad and muscular with fat of course but that is the issue...The height...37 inches was really killing me...Once I was on, I was ok but what if I get stuck or stall on a hill...There is no UP just down...That is the hard part.
 

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Once you start tweeking the suspension and pulling out some stiffness, you can get it to sag quite a bit. Besides, you want some sag. All new bikes are set up so tight, that they are almost brutal to ride. You want about 3-4" of sag from the bike standing alone to you sitting on it., The fronts really won't compress when you get on it. that takes riding it and trial and error tweeking.

My neighbor is 18y/o, 185 and 5'9". I got his 05 RM 125 to where he easily touches both feet (at the balls of his feet) and still maintains excellent riding stability. Granted it took about 3 hours on the track to where it didn't feel sloppy and him eating dirt as much. But it was funny to watch him wash out when it was too soft cause I started at the softest and built up. LMAO.

IMHO, a 100 is way too small of a frame. I know you're not going to grow anymore, but better to be a little big than too small. Being too small presents a major handling and control issue and some painful kneecaps. When I started riding and racing 125s, It took 2 years before I could touch both tip toes to the ground. (25 years ago)
 

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I would have to agree here, a KX100 is way too small for your size. I run KX100 engines in my kids KX85 chassis, the power is decent but my 12 year old is already begging for more power (time for the stroker motor)! Get a 125 or 250! You need the size and power, the 100 is just too small IMHO.
 

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You guys swayed me...I was looking into a green sticker RM 125 from 2002...I was thinking I can play with the suspension or springs if need be, but I did not want something I would outgrow quick or at least be begging for more power...I have a buddy who loves dirtbikes and is also the mechanic at the shop I go to and he can always do some of the stuff for me but then he told me there is a ton of maintenance involved...HAHA time to start learning. What you guys think 2002 RM 125 Green Sticker $1800? Very clean looking...I am meeting him tomorrow...I want a KX 125 but Kawi does not seem so big out here....
 

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I suggest you go sit on a Honda CRF150F, CRF230F and Yamaha TT-R230. My girlfriend recently bought a TT-R230. She's 5' 8" and a beginner. The seat height is 32.5", I think.

I think you are too heavy for a KX100, and a quick revving MX bike may not be the best thing to start with on dirt.
 

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I suggest you go sit on a Honda CRF150F, CRF230F and Yamaha TT-R230. My girlfriend recently bought a TT-R230. She's 5' 8" and a beginner. The seat height is 32.5", I think.

I think you are too heavy for a KX100, and a quick revving MX bike may not be the best thing to start with on dirt.
Those bikes you listed would not fulfill my needs if they are going to be only slightly better than the TTR 125 LE I got my wife...By day one I was over that bikes power and was really enthused at my prospect on dirt by the way I was dealing with the trails near me...I do not want a rocket but need something I can grow into. CRF150R is supposed to be good as well but the specs are close to a KX 100. Except engine size...As far speed and power...I am 37 and handle my 10R very well...Not into speed though I can rip on that thing when the occasion calls for it...That being said that is why I do not want a small bike that will just make me say "crap, should have gotten a bigger bike"...I definitely do not want a 250 though.
 

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I also think you are too big for a 100 and need to get a 125. Shave the seat foam, and put a steahly flywheel weight on it, and viola perfect bike for you. If that RM125 is in excellent condition, and has some mods done to it $1800 isnt a bad asking price.

About the tippy toes thing, it is like that for almost everyone, unless they have long gangly legs. I originally could flat foot on my 125, but I felt cramped, so I put a tall seat on it. Now I can just stand on my toes, but wow, so much more room in the cockpit.

A full size bike should have about 4 inches of sag with you arse on it(When the sag is set properly), so dont consider the seat high that are in the specs as the actual seat hight. If the bike specs are 37" tall seat hight, subtract 4 inches from that and you will have your actual seat hight(with you on it). I would go back to the dealer and ask them if the bikes sag could be set for you, so you could make a better decision.
 

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I also think you are too big for a 100 and need to get a 125. Shave the seat foam, and put a steahly flywheel weight on it, and viola perfect bike for you. If that RM125 is in excellent condition, and has some mods done to it $1800 isnt a bad asking price.

About the tippy toes thing, it is like that for almost everyone, unless they have long gangly legs. I originally could flat foot on my 125, but I felt cramped, so I put a tall seat on it. Now I can just stand on my toes, but wow, so much more room in the cockpit.

A full size bike should have about 4 inches of sag with you arse on it(When the sag is set properly), so dont consider the seat high that are in the specs as the actual seat hight. If the bike specs are 37" tall seat hight, subtract 4 inches from that and you will have your actual seat hight(with you on it). I would go back to the dealer and ask them if the bikes sag could be set for you, so you could make a better decision.
Sounds like a plan...The more I think of it the more I am thinking a bigger bike is for me...A used one for now is ok...The last two bikes were new and this time around I do not want to blow cash on this until I really get serious...Not to say I won't, but I want to learn and beat on this thing before I go buy a brand new 250 in a year and a half or so...Thanks for the advice. Sounds very sound.
 

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Whatever you do, don't under estimate the new 250 lites. They have some power and being 4 stroke...less maintenance and enough power and torque to pull you and then some.

I'm not doubting you on the street, but dirt is a different world.
 
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