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IN the United States of America we have Speed LIMITS, not Recommended speeds...The next time you look at the white SIgn posting Read it real closely, besides loking at the number, then look in the dictionary for the defination of the word LIMIT. I don't care if you have a World Products 572 big block under the hood of a Chevrolet Vega, or a Chevrolet Nova, or even a 2.8L under the hood of a Chevrolet Corvette, the Maximum Speed LIMIT is the white rectangular sign that is the law. Disobey the law and you are giving the rest of us a bad name. Please respect the LIMIT signs and enjoy the scenery and the sweet smells of the country side as you carefully ride your motorcycle...
BTW the yellow signs witha speed for curves is NOT a recommended speed limit if you break this limit you can be legally arrested for speeding...Consider this not only a warning but a reality check...
 

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That may be true for Dorothy and the rest of the Jayhawks, but in Oklahoma the yellow signs are NOT speed limits but ARE recommended speeds :lol:
 

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YELLOW SIGNS

That is what I was taught in 1968...then I had a Kansas State Trooper chat with me when I took a Mazda RX8 out for a test drive...I never exceeded the 65MPH speed LIMIT for either I-35 or I-435, so he was nice and explained it and let me go...without even a warning ticket I suggest that anybody in any state now check their laws. It is ALSO illegal to use the shoulder of a ranp to apex a curve and use it for a sling shot onto the highway, as I was taught in racing school...
 

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ZX-2R said:
IN the United States of America we have Speed LIMITS, not Recommended speeds......
Not entirely true for Arizona, but even the limits have limits. :lol:

From Arizona Revised Statutes "28-701. Reasonable and prudent speed; prima facie evidence; exceptions

A. A person shall not drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the circumstances, conditions and actual and potential hazards then existing. A person shall control the speed of a vehicle as necessary to avoid colliding with any object, person, vehicle or other conveyance on, entering or adjacent to the highway in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to exercise reasonable care for the protection of others."

There are some absolute maximums, that violating can get you a criminal charge. Isn't the law fun?? :lol:
 

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Arizona

The only state where I saw a state trooper pointing to a spare donut tire and having the driver read it...I pulled over because the lights came on behind me, then the fello in front did to. seems he was getting a ticket for doing 80MPH with a tire that said 50MPH MAX for 50 miles. I didn't want to stick around much longer...I'm all registered in Kansas and I'm not required by state to put a plate on my trailer if the gross weight doesn't exceed 2000pounds...only I'm running mobile home axle with mobile home 16 ply tires (not for highway use, in real small letters) although that's how they get them down the highway anyway. I even saw a ticket given to a Uhaul trailer...one of those with a 45MPH MAX on it in decals...passed me at about 90MPH...I kinda like the Arizona Highway Patrol making revenue and keeping the highways safe...California is just plain crazy...we could have a fourm that would be just for CA. Northern or Southern...it's just a mess. I want to live in AZ or TX...someplace I can carry my S&W .357 model 686, in plain sight right on my hip. speed loader and gunbelt...I hate snakes...so I tend to use a lot of .38 buckshot, .38spl hollow points and .357 +P hollowpoints...Living on a farm here in kansas I just use a large pallet a couple of 2X4's to hold it in place, a couple of pullies, some nylon line and I run my targets out and back by hand...I know I could hook up one of my R/C car motors but that would be lazy. I miss the Military Combat course running sliding in the mud shooting from windows over railroad ties, around corners...but I just don't have a safety observer, so I'm stuck with a 50' target. ALL THIS BECAUSE OF ARIZONA LAWS...??? Sierra Vista, south of Tuscon, looks pretty good to me...
 

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ZX-2R said:
seems he was getting a ticket for doing 80MPH with a tire that said 50MPH MAX for 50 miles. I miss the Military Combat course running sliding in the mud shooting from windows over railroad ties, around corners...but I just don't have a safety observer, so I'm stuck with a 50' target. ALL THIS BECAUSE OF ARIZONA LAWS...??? Sierra Vista, south of Tuscon, looks pretty good to me...
80 on a 50 max tire doesn't sound like a reasonable and prudent speed. :lol:

Arizona has pretty decent firearm laws. You move here and establish a residence and you can get a CWP in two weeks after you get the training.

If you miss Cobat courses. There is IPSC and IDPA. Not quite crawling in the mud, but the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :lol: :lol:

A lot of both in this area. I know there is some in Tucson as well.

Sierra Vista is nice little town. Nice mountain near by that is snow capped in the winter (sometimes) Not much around, but becoming quite populated with retiree's and getting more expensive every year. I don't think you would be too out of place packing openly there. I do it on the bike in the Phoenix area quite often.
 

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AZ

East of Phoenix would suit me just great neat Truman...I like the twisy roads...My wife...Likes CA. I'm just looking forward to leaving the major Property taxes behind...we are paying over $1,700/yr now just in state taxes for the house and 10acres...Tough to do when you on a fixed income...and everything keeps going up
 

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East of Phoenix would suit me just great neat Truman...I like the twisy roads...My wife...Likes CA.
I'm not familiar with Truman Arizona, but there are some pretty nice twisties east into and around the Superstition Mountains or going up the Beeline Highway toward the rim. Some area have pretty inexpensive land and the taxes are decent. Even in the Phoenix metro area the taxes are pretty low compared to most large cities back east.

Certainly a lot lower than California. Then again everything in California is expensive.
 

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Roosevelt...Apache Junction

I just want to leave behind Johnson County Kansas. My Grandfather bought the land 80 acres for less than I'm paying each year in Personal Property Taxes now for the 10 acres and 1966 house. I figure as soon as my wife is finished with her Kidney surgery ans is stable and we wrap thing up we should be almost 2 years out from now, and part of that Time I will be on the bike looking at places...A big Estate Auction, to get rid of everything that won't fit in our trailer, and we're out of here. We have 27 bins of Christmas stuff, and the wife likes to change the entire house for the holidays...enough already...I want something simple, a complete change. I've lost my love for Kansas after 51 years. I've seen 80% of the world thanks to the Navy (my dads 23 and my 20), and Although Ausrtralia is a great place, and there are many more lpaces I'd like to return to or visit, I want to get away from the ice storms and just move on. SOmeplace I can park my bike after riding out to see a sunrise, and someplace I can watch some sunsets...and enjoy riding till the end...
 

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in michigan, we have crooked cops, they pulled my father over for having a broken tail light, they took a night stick, broke it, no seatbelt, and a 5 over. he was stopped at a redlight. and we have speed LIMITS only in RURAL farm towns do we have a recommended speed and that is around a corner with a hidden driveway. thats the only one i ever saw
 

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Our Speed Limits out in the countrey didn't used to be posted till about ten years ago...it was in the drivers handbook but no one paid atttention, some of them don't now...it's 45on blacktop 35on gravel unless posted less like for single lane bridges...we still get kids driving 75 on the grravel... Our cops are pretty fair...you just never know when someones cell phone is on or a recording device is on now a days...going to court the judge listens and understands most of the cops an dlistens to the person...if it's not on the cops camera then it's pretty much tossed out of court...that's why they have cameras to record things...no camera there is a lot of speculation...
 

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Been to Sierra Vista & the Army post there (cheaper fuel & munchies/drinks) several times either comming or going from Toooooombstone 8) 8)

Now we all know if you live in Sierra Vista you need to get into SASS shooting, nothing's more fun than dressing up like a cowboy & blasting away with 2 pistols a rifle & shotgun 8) 8) 8)

Last time we were in the AO we stayed on base at DM & had a great vacation. I've got a good friend who's a cop out on the Tohono O'Dodham res & I rode with him a couple days. Talk about wild, we almost got shot by illegal mexican's (in America) busted lots of illegals & I saw more pot in one place than you could fit in the back of a pickup :shock: :shock:
 

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ZX-2R said:
SOmeplace I can park my bike after riding out to see a sunrise, and someplace I can watch some sunsets...and enjoy riding till the end...
Arizona has some of the greatest sunrises and sunsets in the world. 8)

RampRat - SASS and Arizona go together. I'd love to do the shooting, but can't get into the dress up stuff. :? But there is plenty of IPSC and IDPA to keep the lead flying. :lol:
 

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Yeah, I don't follow

I don't follow the SASS but I'm familiar with it! I'd like it! I have a S&W Mod 19-2 .38SPL and a S&W 686 .357 Stainless, and a Browning .22 Siloette that has a 12 or 14 inch barrel that you can't miss what you are aiming at. It has to be because the sights are so far apart...We have (Wifes great grandfathers) a civil war musket complete with original bayonette, belt and buckle and bag. I can't believe that they carried those things! With the bayonette it is well over 6' tall. I love to shoot! I'm not much into semi-automatics, but I really haven't had that much experience except for the old .45's that we qualified with in the Navy. I definately loved the combat range...all the pretty starched creased camofloauge uniforms even mine, but at the end of the day I had to set on a plastic bag, an wear one. I loved sliding in and through mud puddles and shooting over rail road ties, under them , around corners, great days! The only time I came near to being thrown off of the range was when a Marine Gunny got pissed at me...we were shooting at 15 yards and you get 4 shots with your normal hand (I had 4 K5's) then a simulated hit into your shoulder and you shoot opposite hand, so I double tapped the paper in the center of his head) My justification was hte only thing that saved me. If you shoot somebody 4 times through the center of boody mas with a .45 and he doesn't go down and then the SOB shoots back and hits you in the shoulder you have to kill him, he has to be on drugs or wearing a double thick padded bullet proof vest, so I killed him by shooting him in the head, end of story... Gunny liked my attitude...yelled at me in front of the rest of the sailors but told me before he released me that I did hte right thing, he just couldn't allow sailors to think like marines on his small arms range...
 

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There is just something about AZ that screams cowboy & SASS shooting is wicked fun 8) 8) It's the most fun you can have with you'er pants on & still smell like blackpowder :shock:

2 to the chest and if you have a falure to stop it's 1 to the pelvis :p The pelvis is bigger way easier to hit does not move/bob/weve around & unlike the head, if you even graze the pelvis they will drop.

No such thing as "double thick" body armor. It's rated by the bullet's it will stop at a specfic velocity.

I want to try IDPA, but nobody within 45 miles shoots it & I'd have to travel at least 100 miles for a "safety" course before being allowed to shoot.
 

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BOdy armor

The latest that I have seen is the kevlar vest but now they have actual metal plating inside...I wasn't allowed to ask, rather, I wasn't told what the metal plating inside was. I don't know what it is. The SWAT guys have it and it has a pelvis cover on it, kinda like a skirt...I guess that's not funny...I wouldn't want to HAVE TO wear it...
 

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The latest that I have seen is the kevlar vest but now they have actual metal plating inside...I wasn't allowed to ask, rather, I wasn't told what the metal plating inside was. I don't know what it is. The SWAT guys have it and it has a pelvis cover on it, kinda like a skirt...I guess that's not funny...I wouldn't want to HAVE TO wear it...
What it is is that some older plates had steel & some of the better ones had the steel plates wraped with a couple layers of kevlar to cut down on fragmentation. Now they have a creamic plate that's way better than steel plate. However, the plates are for protection from rifle fire as if you get a excellent vest it can & will stop any handgun round on the market today (the vest must be rated for said caliber & load)

The pelvis cover is really nothing more than a "flap" that covers the family jewels. Different body armor companies sell different "flaps" that can protect you from direct rifle fire.
 

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Actually...

Actually more fear is from bombs, dud or not! Some of the stuff sent through the mail and cross country is enough to freak out the normal citizen. When July rolled around last year there was big worries that Fireworks from certain countries wouldn't make it in time...or that they would and be held...People don't even think about the common chemicals that we use...it's a mess!
Anyway July 2004 Motor Cyclist has a big spread about how the S.Koreans were building bikes for the Japanese...restrictions became a big problem...so South Korea is supposed to be dropping hte big whammy in 2005. YOu should see Hyosung Comet GT650...hmmm "Suzuki SV650...V-twin engine, tube frame, no coincidence" SO let the big 4 J companies continue to build the bikes and they will continue to be undersold by a bike that is just as good qualityand CHEAPER to buy.
Although Ducati 749Dark is only $11K...oh, yeah...things are warming up...Think Kawasaki will loosen up on the ZZR-250??? That's what I want...250, aluminum chassis, 17" wheels, better styling in the complete plastics...it actually LOOKS like the ZZR-600 available not only in Canada but the USA as well.
 

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ZX-2R said:
Actually more fear is from bombs, dud or not! Some of the stuff sent through the mail and cross country is enough to freak out the normal citizen. When July rolled around last year there was big worries that Fireworks from certain countries wouldn't make it in time...or that they would and be held...People don't even think about the common chemicals that we use...it's a mess!
Not that I know anything about bombs, but I've "heard" that the only purpose of body armor when it comes to defusing bombs is so that you can have a funeral in a casket instead of being vaporized & having a memorial service without a body.
 

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FOCUSED MICROWAVE

Like cooking in one own suit...al dente...
 
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