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I live in Gloucestershire and in the past I've has Kawasakis!, my first Kawasaki was a ZXR400, followed by two ZX6Rs. Over the past 10 years, or so, I have just had Ducatis.

I had three Ducatis, but in March 2019, I was riding home from work passed Leyhill Open Prison, when a prison officer pulled out from the prison into my path. I always wondered why it was a 40 mph speed limit in the middle of nowhere. Now I know why - the road has a terrible accident record to which I contributed. The driver was fined and given 6 points for driving without due care & attention. It was questioned whether she was on her mobile 'phone but there were no witnesses and the Police could not identify the exact time of the accident. I was taken toSouthmead hospital, in Bristol, and was operated on for 10 hours. I closed the road for 12 hours to allow the Police to do a full investigation, as they thought that the news from the hospital would not be good! I had a replacement hip and lots of metalwork in my left leg. I also dislocated both my shoulders and my left elbow. A few days later, they "nil-by-mouthed" me as they were worried about the blood flow in my lower left leg and were going to amputate it. Fortunately, for me, on the morning of the op, the surgeons changed their minds and I kept the leg! I was on my Ducati S44R Monster but never saw it again!

At the moment, DVLA has taken my license away as I failed the sight test twice and I am waiting to hear the results of the last try, in November. This has stemmed from a brain bleed that I had and was obliged to inform DVLA. My eye specialist believes that the optic nerve connection to my brain was damaged by the bleed. I had an Arai helmet on that has been returned to ne. It is scrap because I had quite a bang on the head but it looks fine!

I can't physically climb on a bike at the moment and my two remaining Ducatis are both SORNED.

Anyway, the real point of joining is because when/if I get my license back and when my solicitor gets my compensation, I intend to "reward" myself with a new bike.

I'm never going to go back to work again and I intend to do a lot of touring - no track days, anymore! First Wales, then Scotland, then IOM, then Ireland, possibly Norway, and then Poland (Auschwitz as I have a distant relative who was killed there). After months of research (all computer-based) and because my closest Motorcycle dealer is Frasers of Gloucester, the choice is either a Versys 650 or Versys 1000, probably in the Grand Tourer option. I really want hard panniers but everything else is useful.

I intend to buy from Frasers of Gloucester, who I used to get my parts from when I had Kawasakis. They are my closest motorcycle dealer and when I got home last year, we went there to have a look. They found me somewhere to sit watching the telly and bought me a coffee! That's the sort of place that I want to deal with!

The competitor is the BMW F900 XR but my nearest BMW dealers are in Cheltenham (about 25 miles away, at least) or Lovetts who are really a swanky car dealership with no bike history. The BMW dealer in Bristol was always Bath Road Motorcycles, who are very good, but Lovetts just outbid them and go the dealership.

Soooo, anyone had/got a Versys and what do you think of it as a tourer?
 

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I see that I was already a member and I did a similar post back in October. Oooops!!!

Anyway, nobody commented on the Versys.
 

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Hey PerryL,

No worries. Anyone who has had a hard knock to the head like you did, gets a pass on being forgetful. Heck I have not recently had such a knock and I forget stuff like that all the time. I have never owned or ridden a Versys but have heard good things about them. Hopefully another reader my be able to give you more details about riding/owning a Versys. Your trip sounds fantastic and I hope you get your settlement soon.
 

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Hey PerryL,

No worries. Anyone who has had a hard knock to the head like you did, gets a pass on being forgetful. Heck I have not recently had such a knock and I forget stuff like that all the time. I have never owned or ridden a Versys but have heard good things about them. Hopefully another reader my be able to give you more details about riding/owning a Versys. Your trip sounds fantastic and I hope you get your settlement soon.
When I first got home and would 'phone my sol about something, her staff (she has about ten) would always say that she's in court today but they can help. As she is very particular about the cases she takes, I used to wonder why she was always in court. I've discovered that insurance companies would go to court to argue that the sky is not blue! Although the Police released their report after the other driver was prosecuted and they have my medical file (that I posted to my solicitor and it weighed just under 2Kgs!) on the last I heard, they were even denying that I was riding the bike! My impression is that they rely on most people giving up - which I have nearly done, because it just ruins your life with the continual arguing about what are clear and obvious facts. This, according to my sol, is perfectly normal!
 

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Wow all that and itching to get back on the Horse (y)
Rode loads of Versys 650 and a handful of 1000's but that new Grand Tourer looks the Dogs especially in my Favorite Colour.
I think that would do you very nicely but it's down to a test ride of Both the 650 & 1000 to see which one fits, Just as a side note the 1000 is not for the Vertically Challenged....
Don't forget to show what ever you get off on here as and when it joins the Family :giggle:
Do yourself a big favour and get at least one Bike Cam helmet mounted & Bike if possible, No arguing with Video evidence....



 

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I have a Versys 650 but I use it as a solo commute bike. Fun bike and it will do 75- 80 mph all day long. I am on the Versys forum and several members use theirs for touring bikes one member puts about 35,000 miles a year and another has used it to cross Canada west coast to east coast and back again. I use a 1999 Concours ZG 1000 as my touring bike. It is more comfortable for my wife, but the Versys 650 is more than capable for a trip to a restaurant or lite shopping 2 up.

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Sadly what you say applies equally on the other side of the pond.

I was in a similar accident but not nearly as bad. Despite it being a clear case of the truck driver in a T intersection ignoring the right of way that I had, the truck driver's insurance company's statement of defense included ridiculous allegations such as I was not wearing an approved helmet, was speeding etc etc etc. I was in fact wearing a $650 Shoei, Snell certified helmet and my GPS indicated I was well below the speed limit. So like you said, each and every obvious fact had to be proven. They even tried to have a brochure of my motorcycle submitted by me as evidence, thrown out.

Sadly they ended up winning due to a technicality and a novice judge who made a bad decision. But I would not give up. That is their hope. I think your solicitor is correct, this kind of game playing is normal, but don't let them get away with it.
 

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Oh man, I just read Greenisbest's post and I could not agree more.

Had I had a bike cam for my accident, my case would never have ended up in court. I think all of us understand that riding is inherently dangerous and we outfit ourselves with the proper gear and we ride as if we were invisible, but the thing we often don't do is arm ourselves with cameras. We think in the event of an accident justice will prevail, but sadly it often ends up that the side who has the best lawyer wins. In order to win, you have to have eyewitnesses who are willing to testify on your behalf or video that proves what happened. I highly recommend equipping your bike or yourself with video cameras.
 

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Wow all that and itching to get back on the Horse (y)
Rode loads of Versys 650 and a handful of 1000's but that new Grand Tourer looks the Dogs especially in my Favorite Colour.
I think that would do you very nicely but it's down to a test ride of Both the 650 & 1000 to see which one fits, Just as a side note the 1000 is not for the Vertically Challenged....
Don't forget to show what ever you get off on here as and when it joins the Family :giggle:
Do yourself a big favour and get at least one Bike Cam helmet mounted & Bike if possible, No arguing with Video evidence....



That is exactly the colour! When I get riding again, I'll visit Frasers and see if I can test ride the 650 and 1000. I'm not that worried about pure power and so if the 650 feels right, then I think that it will be enough. No pillion, but just me and luggage.

Frasers is not far from the M5 and I'd like to try the 650 on a motorway at around 75 to check it will easily manage. Fuel consumption and tank size doesn't seem to be an issue, whereas the BMW only carries about 16l.
 

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I have a Versys 650 but I use it as a solo commute bike. Fun bike and it will do 75- 80 mph all day long. I am on the Versys forum and several members use theirs for touring bikes one member puts about 35,000 miles a year and another has used it to cross Canada west coast to east coast and back again. I use a 1999 Concours ZG 1000 as my touring bike. It is more comfortable for my wife, but the Versys 650 is more than capable for a trip to a restaurant or lite shopping 2 up.
I'll be solo just with luggage and so it sounds like the 650 would do!
 

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Sadly what you say applies equally on the other side of the pond.

I was in a similar accident but not nearly as bad. Despite it being a clear case of the truck driver in a T intersection ignoring the right of way that I had, the truck driver's insurance company's statement of defense included ridiculous allegations such as I was not wearing an approved helmet, was speeding etc etc etc. I was in fact wearing a $650 Shoei, Snell certified helmet and my GPS indicated I was well below the speed limit. So like you said, each and every obvious fact had to be proven. They even tried to have a brochure of my motorcycle submitted by me as evidence, thrown out.

Sadly they ended up winning due to a technicality and a novice judge who made a bad decision. But I would not give up. That is their hope. I think your solicitor is correct, this kind of game playing is normal, but don't let them get away with it.
I won't give up as my solicitor is not worried at all. I just have to hang in there and not let it worry me! I have two physios (paid for by the insurance industry accident scheme) who visit me and give me lots of exercises to practice. My main efforts go into getting better!
 

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Oh man, I just read Greenisbest's post and I could not agree more.

Had I had a bike cam for my accident, my case would never have ended up in court. I think all of us understand that riding is inherently dangerous and we outfit ourselves with the proper gear and we ride as if we were invisible, but the thing we often don't do is arm ourselves with cameras. We think in the event of an accident justice will prevail, but sadly it often ends up that the side who has the best lawyer wins. In order to win, you have to have eyewitnesses who are willing to testify on your behalf or video that proves what happened. I highly recommend equipping your bike or yourself with video cameras.
I will look into a bike cam. It can only help. I have no memory of the accident but I think that it may of been dark, or getting dark - around 6pm on 27th March. I'll check it this year!
 

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Hi Everybody,

I live in Gloucestershire and in the past I've has Kawasakis!, my first Kawasaki was a ZXR400, followed by two ZX6Rs. Over the past 10 years, or so, I have just had Ducatis.

I had three Ducatis, but in March 2019, I was riding home from work passed Leyhill Open Prison, when a prison officer pulled out from the prison into my path. I always wondered why it was a 40 mph speed limit in the middle of nowhere. Now I know why - the road has a terrible accident record to which I contributed. The driver was fined and given 6 points for driving without due care & attention. It was questioned whether she was on her mobile 'phone but there were no witnesses and the Police could not identify the exact time of the accident. I was taken toSouthmead hospital, in Bristol, and was operated on for 10 hours. I closed the road for 12 hours to allow the Police to do a full investigation, as they thought that the news from the hospital would not be good! I had a replacement hip and lots of metalwork in my left leg. I also dislocated both my shoulders and my left elbow. A few days later, they "nil-by-mouthed" me as they were worried about the blood flow in my lower left leg and were going to amputate it. Fortunately, for me, on the morning of the op, the surgeons changed their minds and I kept the leg! I was on my Ducati S44R Monster but never saw it again!

At the moment, DVLA has taken my license away as I failed the sight test twice and I am waiting to hear the results of the last try, in November. This has stemmed from a brain bleed that I had and was obliged to inform DVLA. My eye specialist believes that the optic nerve connection to my brain was damaged by the bleed. I had an Arai helmet on that has been returned to ne. It is scrap because I had quite a bang on the head but it looks fine!

I can't physically climb on a bike at the moment and my two remaining Ducatis are both SORNED.
G'day, Perry! It occurred to me that that the moniker "PerryL" could conceivably be read phonetically as 'PERIL", LoL! But you seem to have discovered that in your accident, the hard way! Glad you're still in one piece; that mishap could have been FAR worse, of course! I presently own a rather rare 2000 green ZX900E-1 and absolutely love it! I've had Hondas and Yamahahahs (FZR1000) exclusively, previously! My bike is actually a 'Kwikasfucki', so I am told by my smart-assed buddies, but either way, it's a lovely bike for me! Welcome to the sporadic comaraderie that prevails on this forum and hopefully you'll have happier days (once this COVID-19 kerfuffle comes under more adequate control! Love Ducatis, by the way, but just about all modern bikes now are works of art! Ya got good taste in bikes, mate!
Cheers!

 

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That is nice with the wheels the right colour.

I've got a long letter from DVLA which I'll go through today, but, although on first scan, they want various things, they have received my eye test results and haven't rejected me straight off, as they normally do.

I've got a saved search with Autotrader to look for used bikes that are sports tourers within 20 miles. As Frasers are a Kawasaki dealer and my nearest dealership of any kind, a Kawasaki is very likely to be my next bike. I want to use a dealer as I will part-ex one of my Ducatis, as I haven't got room for another bike. Just family to get round now!
 
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