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Hey gang hope I can get some feedback.

I have done a ton of homework on available standards/vintage/retro and just discovered EXACTLY what I was looking for...the Kawasaki Zephyr series.

Kawasaki Zephyr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would appreciate any feedback as to everyrhing from reliability, availability, performance...ride position/comfort, et al. Especially the 750 and 1100.

I don't see very many of these bikes in the US...mostly in UK and the rest of Europe. Wonder why?

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Americans buy retro like crazy. My Vulcan 900 has a plethora of retro styling cues. Harley Davidson is all about retro. I agree that after 7 years in existance the Zephyr line must have met its market potential and fallen off...but this is one American that is dying to get on top of a retro standard sport.

http://jarle.eltelevest.no/Kawasaki/Images/2004/Road/ZRX/ZRX1200b04.jpg - A pretty darn cool naked ZRX 1200 I am also trying to find.
 

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Hey, Greenie, I had a 90 model 550 that I rode for around 12 years and I had an absolute blast with it!
Use this link for more research (if you haven't already); then I will provide some personal info:

The Zephyr-Zone - Index

They essentially used the old KZ motor in these, so they are as bulletproof as anything out there. The only 'problems' I can recall was a cam chain tensioner failure, and I had to replace the exhaust because the muffler cracked where it passed under the passenger footpeg. I did have a cylinder base gasket failure, but it was roughly 10 yrs old and 25K+ miles then; I doubt this was a common problem.
I'd guess availability is fairly low (for many reasons), but search the site linked above. This is the last one I've seen for sale in the last year or so (and it's pretty old to boot): WTS/WTT 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 - EastTNriders.com
I'd say performance is decent; the old air-cooled, 2-valve engines are never going to compete with a modern liquid-cooled, 4-valve design, but they are still plenty fast enough to get into trouble! Handling was decent, again no match for a true sportbike, but good enough I would regularly embarrass the squids in the corners.
Comfort is very subjective, but I'll say they are moderately to very comfortable. The 550 is/was a pretty small bike; it worked good for me (short legs), but if you're more tall /lanky than 'sqaut', I'll bet you would definitely want the 750 if not the 1100 model. The seat was fairly wide and flat; however, they had a slight slope on the front (where it meets the tank) that had a tendency to 'crowd the boys' against the tank, but it wasn't a significant problem to me. They also used a fairly flat handlebar and the reach is short. It puts you in a slight lean forward but never pressures your wrist like a sportbike lean. There's plenty of room to move around and adjust the bar/controls. I couldn't imagine comfort being any kind of issue.
The only downside to acquiring a bike like these are the typical issues of parts availability (tire choices are limited also), and the probable need for maintenance and/or reconditioning. The upside is a versatile, reliable, fun motorcycle that is very unique. And drop-dead gorgeous IMO.
FWIW, I wanted to mention the original 550 Zephyr that Kawasaki imported was based on a 400cc model Japanese model. (Think the original Suzuki Bandit). I think this had a lot to do with my impressions of the bike (small but faster than any other 500/550's that were being sold then. I really think the Zephyrs and Bandits were ahead of their time for the US market, but in any case, they (supposedly) couldn't satisfy the need for the 'demand' of huge-horsepower, high-speed tastes of the American market. So...dealers didn't order many, demand was low, sales were poor, and it was downhill the rest of the way!
 

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Wow!!! What do I owe you?????

No lie...when I received the e-mail reply of your post...at the end it stated:

"Believe it or not even thought this is easily the most informative and helpful post in the history of the internet there may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again." :D
 

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Why didn't the Zephyr or EJ 650 sell if America will buy retrobikes retro styling yes the vulcan has retro looks it's not a true retro bike like the Zephyror the wj. Americans will buy Harley clones! ( but with morden liquid cooling,overhead cams, suppension and electrics) Because most buyers want a harley ( a better harley bu the way) they don't want to pay the price for them.
Kawasaki was giving the Zephyrs and EJ away. I remember the survey that the big 4 manufacters did, people said they would buy the ujm bikes, but they didn't ask was how much people wanted to pay. The folks who came to the dealers to looked at the zephyrs just a rehash of the KZ then looked at the price and bought ZX sportbikes I saw it happen.
because the prices were so close to each other. And the tech advances on the ZX where so great. You could buy a liquid cooled sprtbike for only a few dollers more and get a lot more preformance for your buck.
Retro has a limted market appeal, I just don't think theirs a big enough market for them. Or they would sell better.
That is just mho.

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Bottom line is they sold pretty well for 6-7 years. I fully understand that the cruiser and modern sport bike segment are bigger. It has been relayed to me via e-mail that the retro concept, if anything, was ahead of its time. If Kawi had waited to launch the Zephyr series until a few years ago instead of in 1990 the demographics would have been much more in favor of that kind of bike. I wholeheartedly agree. Look at the roaring success of the retro Mustang. Right now riders that began on bikes in the 1970's are an absolutely huge segment still riding. Now when I desperately want a mint condition KZ/Zephyr...most of those who bought them are not trying to sell them...but that goes for quite a few bikes that are only 10+ years old.
 

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They didn't sell over here at all. For every air-cooled standard there are 10 fugly 80's Japanese cruisers.

I honestly don't know what anyone was thinking in the 80s as far as design went anyway. They were trying to make something more like a cruiser but made them ridiculously ugly in the process? I think it's better to not try to figure them out. :?

I think the post 97 vulcans are selling well because they finally got the equation right; Japanese reliability with American retro good looks.

As far as the Zephyr, they are notorious for cheap fit and finish. Keep it inside and/or covered and/or coated with WD-40 (in the winter months) or chrome/clearcoat/paint/plastics will start turning very quickly.

They were a nice bike but still thought of as a "cheaper" bike when put up against big chromed cruisers or fast watercooled sports bikes, so they got the **** end of the stick for finish. If you can find one make sure you give it a good once over.
 

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At this point I really don't want any info on how hard they are to find...I want one...and that's all I am concerned about. If I spent money like the American public right now I would be driving an SUV while sipping a latte while talking on a phone that is also a jukebox.

The question about their rarity is much more rhetorical than you are treating it and you know it...if you find one in good shape I am cheerfully buying. If not go find some other thread to troll.
 

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No lie...when I received the e-mail reply of your post...at the end it stated:

"Believe it or not even thought this is easily the most informative and helpful post in the history of the internet there may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again." :D
:lol: Hahahaha!
 

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At this point I really don't want any info on how hard they are to find...I want one...and that's all I am concerned about. If I spent money like the American public right now I would be driving an SUV while sipping a latte while talking on a phone that is also a jukebox.

The question about their rarity is much more rhetorical than you are treating it and you know it...if you find one in good shape I am cheerfully buying. If not go find some other thread to troll.
I'm not sure if this was directed at me but to wrap up my big post of crap: look very carefully for cosmetic problems as it is a very good indication of how pampered the bike was.

Generally anything coming up used at this point was well taken care of.
 

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:cool: Not directed at you Jimmy...I just thought someone else was getting a little carried away with the rhetorical part of my question...but that's what I get for trying to get as much on-topic opinion as possible...I get a little rhetoric in there too. Its cool.
 

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It's a solid bike that used parts will be difficult/impossible to get and new stuff will be either NLA or expensive. I too ran a Kawasaki service department BITD and ours were nailed to the floor. BUT I like them, and the cosmetic parts won't break if you don't CRASH!! If you find a clean one GO FOR IT!!!
 

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I don't see very many of these bikes in the US...mostly in UK and the rest of Europe. Wonder why?
I gave you an ansewer
If don't want to hear peoples feedback then should not ask for it.
Remember you asked for feedback.
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It's a solid bike that used parts will be difficult/impossible to get and new stuff will be either NLA or expensive. I too ran a Kawasaki service department BITD and ours were nailed to the floor. BUT I like them, and the cosmetic parts won't break if you don't CRASH!! If you find a clean one GO FOR IT!!!
Thanks elr...think I am going with a KZ1000 that a shop is building frame off restoration outside of Chicago. Wish me luck! Might be July!
 

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Alway4Kawis, I wonder if I have your old zr550 zephyr? I've had it for a couple of years, bought it from a college kid here in Athens GA? I always heard that the reason why they quit selling them here in the states was because Ford motor Co. owned the trademark name "zephyr" for many years and when the Zephyr motorcycles came to America, Ford filed a cease and desist suit out against Kawasaki? Definitely NOT many Zephyrs here in the states but have quite the following overseas. Photo from last week at Chestatee overlook GA hwy 60 just south of Suches GA.
 

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