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I'm looking to go up from a 180 to a 195 on a 04 636. Does anyone know how much tire I can get on the stock rim and spacer set up. And besides looks what performance issues might I be looking at? Any thoughts or info or don't do it's out there?
 

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Go with the factory recomened tire. You'll ride a lot better. Having a larger tire does nothing for you.


Does Size Matter
Squeezing a wide tire onto a narrow rim can be a big mistake. Here's why.
By Andrew Trevitt


Those low-profile 190-series tires sure look gnarly on the back of a sportbike, and we've seen them pinched onto all sizes of rims. But in reality, a 190/50-17 fits properly only on a 6.0-inch rim, and cramming it onto anything smaller severely changes its profile.

As an experiment, we mounted a 190-series Metzeler Rennsport onto our F4i's 5.5-inch rear wheel and took some measurements. Compared to the correctly sized tire on the same rim, the 190's profile closely matches the 180's near the edges of the tread, but is much lower in the center area-equivalent to about a 6mm change in ride height. Effectively, the wider tire will give more rake and trail when the bike is vertical, while keeping close to the original geometry when the bike is leaned over. Accounting for one (by changing ride height) will unduly affect the other.

Following our test with the Metzeler Sportecs, we slipped a 190/50 rear Sportec onto the F4i and rode a portion of the test loop for a practical comparison. With no changes to suspension or geometry, the F4i felt substantially different with the wider tire. With the bike straight up and down, steering was slightly sluggish in comparison, but just off vertical, the F4i was quite tippy and darted into corners. The light, neutral steering of the Sportecs was completely changed and the bike lost its balanced feel. The sensation was very much like riding on a tire squared off from too many freeway miles. At higher lean angles, performance was less affected, although making transitions from side to side was unpredictable. And, contrary to the popular myth that the wider tire puts down a bigger footprint and gives more traction, we felt no improvement in that department from the properly sized tire.
We've experienced similar changes with a 180-series tire on a 5.0-inch rim meant for a 170-series bun. Tire engineers work hard to design and match front and rear profiles for characteristics that we sometimes take for granted. Upsetting that balance is surprisingly easy and you should think twice before sacrificing your tire's performance for appearance's sake.

This story was originally published as part of the tire test in the June 2002 issue of Sport Rider.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/146_0206_size/
 

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tire question answered thanks

Sounds like you did your homework. Glad to know there are some knowledgable tech out there. Thanks again.
 

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Here is another reason not to go larger - Your rotational mass goes up a few pounds due to the size change. In laymans terms your steering will be slower go into and out of turns and bike will feel heavier and harder to get into the turn.
 
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