which is faster?
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hm... well, Since the busa ran a 183 and the 12R ran 185, I'd say ZX-12R. Oh my info comes from here :
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_0110_hayabusa/
, you need to post in a yamaha forum or something, this one is prejudice
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_0110_hayabusa/
, you need to post in a yamaha forum or something, this one is prejudice
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My son rides a Yamaha R1. It is very fast! I will ask him about the Yamaha forum.
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depends on the rider :wink:
depends on the rider :wink:
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Wasn't this discussed in another thread? :?:
FASTER!
IN the United States of America we have Speed LIMITS, not Recommended speeds...The next time you look at the white SIgn posting Read it real closely, besides loking at the number, then look in the dictionary for the defination of the word LIMIT. I don't care if you have a World Products 572 big block under the hood of a Chevrolet Vega, or a Chevrolet Nova, or even a 2.8L under the hood of a Chevrolet Corvette, the Maximum Speed LIMIT is the white rectangular sign that is the law. Disobey the law and you are giving the rest of us a bad name. Please respect the LIMIT signs and enjoy the scenery and the sweet smells of the country side as you carefully ride your motorcycle...
IN the United States of America we have Speed LIMITS, not Recommended speeds...The next time you look at the white SIgn posting Read it real closely, besides loking at the number, then look in the dictionary for the defination of the word LIMIT. I don't care if you have a World Products 572 big block under the hood of a Chevrolet Vega, or a Chevrolet Nova, or even a 2.8L under the hood of a Chevrolet Corvette, the Maximum Speed LIMIT is the white rectangular sign that is the law. Disobey the law and you are giving the rest of us a bad name. Please respect the LIMIT signs and enjoy the scenery and the sweet smells of the country side as you carefully ride your motorcycle...
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The Hayabusa will win out in top end and in 1/4 mile. It has better aerodynamics and is lower. ZX12R will take a hayabusa on a track in a second though. (better ground clearance, shorter length too)
The rider has more to do with the abilities than the differences between these two particular bikes though.
The rider has more to do with the abilities than the differences between these two particular bikes though.
SALT FLATS IN UTAH
SOAD, we also have the salt flats, unlimited speeds, and the drag strips, and special places where the states and counties look the opposite direction up to a point. Sure there are places that we can open up even race tracks where it is even safer, with medical attention available, turn martials...not a bad place to learn about your abilities which you will find are short of the bikes...
WHO CARES which is the fastest, if you can't ride that fast anyway? There are some roads in Arizona and California that are nthing but switchbacks for miles, and you would be more than crazy if youtried to take them at 50mph...your tires wouldn't last from the rear end sliding and smoking as you were accelerating, and dragging your pegs as you literally attacked these corners. ASK Curt, he has some miles on his bike. A lighter bike less mass has the advantage. You put the new 572 Chevrolet (World Motors) in a Camaro, Impala, Monte Carlo, something that won't twits apart on a mountain road with tha tmuch torque and Horse power, and you will find a Kawasaki Ninja250R faster time up and down hill. Take a crash course in Technical Physics...it is facinating! I think that due to power to weight a ZX-6 either one would be cool to use as an example but you would not be able to use all of the power either up or down hill in the switchbacks that I am refering to...
SOAD, we also have the salt flats, unlimited speeds, and the drag strips, and special places where the states and counties look the opposite direction up to a point. Sure there are places that we can open up even race tracks where it is even safer, with medical attention available, turn martials...not a bad place to learn about your abilities which you will find are short of the bikes...
WHO CARES which is the fastest, if you can't ride that fast anyway? There are some roads in Arizona and California that are nthing but switchbacks for miles, and you would be more than crazy if youtried to take them at 50mph...your tires wouldn't last from the rear end sliding and smoking as you were accelerating, and dragging your pegs as you literally attacked these corners. ASK Curt, he has some miles on his bike. A lighter bike less mass has the advantage. You put the new 572 Chevrolet (World Motors) in a Camaro, Impala, Monte Carlo, something that won't twits apart on a mountain road with tha tmuch torque and Horse power, and you will find a Kawasaki Ninja250R faster time up and down hill. Take a crash course in Technical Physics...it is facinating! I think that due to power to weight a ZX-6 either one would be cool to use as an example but you would not be able to use all of the power either up or down hill in the switchbacks that I am refering to...
Re: SALT FLATS IN UTAH
:wink: :wink:
We have been on a few mountian roads & normally aspirated cars could not keep up with the turbo diesel 8) This one time on I-70 going toward Aspen we had a Corvette pass us on the flats. We were going up a pass & blew past him like he was standing still as at altitude his car was sooooo slow it was funny. He passed us on the down slope a couple times (going 100+) but every time we caught him & passed him on the up hill side. Last we saw him he was pounding the crap out of his steering wheel as we left him in a cloud of diesel smoke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Not always true my friendZX-2R said:
:wink: :wink: We have been on a few mountian roads & normally aspirated cars could not keep up with the turbo diesel 8) This one time on I-70 going toward Aspen we had a Corvette pass us on the flats. We were going up a pass & blew past him like he was standing still as at altitude his car was sooooo slow it was funny. He passed us on the down slope a couple times (going 100+) but every time we caught him & passed him on the up hill side. Last we saw him he was pounding the crap out of his steering wheel as we left him in a cloud of diesel smoke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
NOW RampRat
Natural Asperated not Turbo Diesel Injection or even turbocharged, or super charged...A Ninja 250R will beat most cars up winding switchbacks and then back down again...Actually I'm selecting 12Vdc muffin fans for a cheap form of supercharging...see what seems to work the best, and then decide if I need to intsall a rheostat for various inclines and altitudes, because of the changes...it's not cheating it's just a cheap form of ambient pressure created by a couple of muffins installed...I have several different models from 3.5"-5" and all rated at different rpm's/cfm...I figure it shouldn't hurt anything and it's alot less work than a supercharger, and a lot less money too. What do you think? MY 1997 Ford F250 7.3Liter International Harvester Engine was kick butt when the turbo was cranking.
Natural Asperated not Turbo Diesel Injection or even turbocharged, or super charged...A Ninja 250R will beat most cars up winding switchbacks and then back down again...Actually I'm selecting 12Vdc muffin fans for a cheap form of supercharging...see what seems to work the best, and then decide if I need to intsall a rheostat for various inclines and altitudes, because of the changes...it's not cheating it's just a cheap form of ambient pressure created by a couple of muffins installed...I have several different models from 3.5"-5" and all rated at different rpm's/cfm...I figure it shouldn't hurt anything and it's alot less work than a supercharger, and a lot less money too. What do you think? MY 1997 Ford F250 7.3Liter International Harvester Engine was kick butt when the turbo was cranking.
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now wait a minute rat :lol: :lol: -you know i'm chiming in here :lol:
you mean a ls1 vette could'nt pass your truck going up a hill? :lol:
its the driver not the car
altitude should'nt matter much-the ecu will adjust fuel/air , maybe you just smoked him out so he could'nt see :lol:
i'll run you to the top of any hill in the T/A :lol: :twisted: :twisted:
just pikin at ya :wink:
now wait a minute rat :lol: :lol: -you know i'm chiming in here :lol:
you mean a ls1 vette could'nt pass your truck going up a hill? :lol:
its the driver not the car
altitude should'nt matter much-the ecu will adjust fuel/air , maybe you just smoked him out so he could'nt see :lol:
i'll run you to the top of any hill in the T/A :lol: :twisted: :twisted:
just pikin at ya :wink:
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Here's a couple links to Engineer Pass, it's a easy drive :lol: :lol: We could also take Imogene Pass or even Black Bear :wink:
http://www.4x4now.com/a4f98b.htm http://www.dimensional.com/~dsimpson/mountain/trips/engineer_pass1.html http://www.arches.uga.edu/~peteuga/Engineer_Pass.html http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/imogene.html http://www.4x4now.com/trcoip.htm http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=64 http://members.tripod.com/HoboJeepers/SJ7-3-00.htm http://www.mhjcontherocks.com/Community/Trips/61.aspx http://www.4x4now.com/trcobb.htm
Black Bear is the pass the wife said she would walk on instead of taking it in the F250 :shock: :shock: :lol:
However, I figgure you're going to wimp out & want a paved road eh :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: :wink:
No problem, I've got just the road for you 8) 8) 8)bikeaholic said:
Here's a couple links to Engineer Pass, it's a easy drive :lol: :lol: We could also take Imogene Pass or even Black Bear :wink:
http://www.4x4now.com/a4f98b.htm http://www.dimensional.com/~dsimpson/mountain/trips/engineer_pass1.html http://www.arches.uga.edu/~peteuga/Engineer_Pass.html http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/imogene.html http://www.4x4now.com/trcoip.htm http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=64 http://members.tripod.com/HoboJeepers/SJ7-3-00.htm http://www.mhjcontherocks.com/Community/Trips/61.aspx http://www.4x4now.com/trcobb.htm
Black Bear is the pass the wife said she would walk on instead of taking it in the F250 :shock: :shock: :lol:
However, I figgure you're going to wimp out & want a paved road eh :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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you dog :lol:
yea-its gotta be paved,its hard enough gettin'traction on blacktop with the beast :lol:
you dog :lol:
yea-its gotta be paved,its hard enough gettin'traction on blacktop with the beast :lol:
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