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hi to all. i am trying to find out if anyone can help me determine what a fair price for a 2000 ZRX1100 with 5900 miles would be. have a buddy looking at it for his first bike. the guy is a friend of his, and is asking $3000.00 with some extras thrown in. an arai helmet, yoshimura exhaust, and some sort of parking contraption.(la park..or something) any input would be appreciated. thanks and happy riding. :D
 

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3K :shock: sounds like a SWEET DEAL !! dont know about it being a good first bike since it is a torque monster. hate to see it get destroyed because of inexperience :cry:
 

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First of all you have to be kidding about a first bike for a friend. IF he is a FRIEND...a REAL FRIEND, then you need to be specific about his riding experience or else.........YOU are NOT his friend. Do you have any idea of the weight on this bike when it is fully loaded? Do you have any idea of its potentail? I would seriously take those questions into factor...if I was you or eeven if I was your friend. I definately NOT recommend this bike to anyone (ANYONE) for a first bike unless my intent was to remove them. I'm 51 and I wouldn't ride the bike, personaly. It's to heavy for me first of all. Secondly, IF I did own it I would have a heck of a time working it in tight places such as parking lots and stalls and around in places where speed was very limited. Even on the highway, I wouldn't be happy with the bike because of its size. I say NO. This is not a Beginners bike. Even if the guy is a football player, the bike is to much for him. I'm not saying that it isn't a great bike, or that the price is to high...I'm saying that if the guy wants a first bike a FRIEND would tell him...why it isn't. There are lots of bikes on the market and as winter comes along there will be many more... Safety First...
 

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actually, he was a college football player... he seems to handle my 1600 classic fine, which is a good 175-200 pounds heavier. because i say it is his first bike doesn't mean he hasn't ridden. obviously he has little experience compared with most of us on this forum, but i do believe he can easily start on this bike if he takes his time and is easy with his right hand. hell, my dad is 59yrs old and bought a vulcan 2000 4 months ago for his very first bike..he had NEVER ridden a motorcycle before. he is 6'5" and 245lbs. he now has over 10,000 miles on it without a mishap! so, yes i am his friend, and do have confidence in his abilities(both physical and mental). i was really wanting to know if the price was a fair deal for the bike i described. thanks.
 

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The stock ZRX1100 is a handful of bike, pushing probably 540 LBS wet and developing around 99HP and approximately 75 lb/ft of torque. However, the bike has a very balanced feel to it. My first streetbike was an '85 Honda Nighthawk 450. I got bored with the bike within two months and bought an '02 ZRX1200 (with even more torque and HP than the 1100 predecessor.) In all honesty the Rex was a much safer choice than the little Honda. Why? Because it handled better, and although probably weighing 100 pounds more than the Honda, it distibuted it's weight more effectively. The Rex is far from cumbersome at low speeds...

The Rex can be a lion or a lamb... it's throttle response is very predictable, but twist the wrist and WOO HOO. Also, the REX has a very FLAT torque curve, and its power is not "peaky" in any sense of the word. This allows for easy drivability ranging from stop and go traffic to highway passing situations.

It's your choice about how reckless you care to be on your bike. In my opinion, it's the gray matter that truely matters most in these situations. A strong responsible person with prior riding experience, i.e. the 1600 cruiser should flourish on this bike.

So, if someone can already control the HEAVY 1600 cruiser, then I see no reason why they couldn't control the Rex. The Rex's seat height is definitely taller, but it sounds like the person in question doesn't have a height issue. The Rex will be easier to turn and maneuver from a stop and easier to lean at speed.

The bottom line is that $3000 is a great deal on a great bike. Mods are abundantly available to keep the Rex's owner happy for years to come. :D

BTW, I also own an '05 Nija 500R, which I purchased for my girlfriend to ride on trips instead of us always going two up on my REX. To be quite honest I feel much safer at highway speeds on the Rex, it has such a stable feel to it. In stop and go traffic, both bikes handle well. Just my 2 cents.

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When it comes to a first bike...usually the person has sme riding experience, but the usual person//average person doesn't yet have the abilities to control a BIG bike. SO, I threw in the words of caution ALWAYS take the safety side when there becomes a question or there is a question about a first bike...or ANY bike for that matter. I have many years of riding all sorts of bikes including the old Z1's, and a 750 triple 2 stroke that was a powerhouse...lots of bikes that way to much for me...just like a ZX-10 would be. Sure I can ride one. I would rate myself on a skill level higher than the "average rider", yet I know myself and know that on occasion that I have a tendancy to put things on the edge. I'd much rather ride a smaller bike to its full potential than a larger bike to a partial potential. I've been there riding a 250, and several 450's and even a Suzuki GS1100E...so I KNOW where my limit is...I just get into things to hard. I could move up to a ZX-10R and ride it without any problems for years...but I'd rather have a bike like a ZX-6R, even a 500R and a 250R...everyone that rides a sport bike should have a 250R...I say this because they are awesome to ride in real tight, really twisty roads where you would normally have to slow down and proceed with a little more caution on a larger bike...When you hang off a 250 and you are passing Harley's, and larger clones, you get a smile that you just can't get off of your face and some memories that will live forever in your mind. I say this because of my past experience. Riding in MA, R.I., even places in OR, CA...places that are so tight that the switchbacks are even hard to walk up, and you are dragging your pegs even going slow around the corners...this is where the Ninja250R will just clean up on anything larger. There is a place for the 250R... Harley's and even other sport bikes make up the difference ONLY if you get to the straights and they are long enough for the larger bikes to take advantage of them...IF you ride a 250 you will soon learn where to turn around and start back down the road...staying in the right element for the bike is important. Rapping to 14,000RPM going straight down the road, you had better have a different gear, and some serious streamlining if you want to stay ahead of a big cruiser on any straight for any length of time...Yes I've been there..yes I still remember kicking HD's butts in twisties...I remember pulling the front wheel of the ground about 3-4" and not letting it get any further than that many times on larger machines just to know tha tI was getting the max out of my bike...I've been on a GS450S and outrun the groups of bikes on the Scenic tour route in Newport R. I. My buddies that I rode with called me "Animal" back in 1983...because even with us riding nearly every night and riding the tour route at least once a week, I'd take the lead and run away. It's when someone gets a picture of you getting about 4' of air under you when you are hilltopping, that it wakes you up that you were actually that concentrated and in control that you didn't realize it...landing with the rear wheel and having the front only 1-2" off of the ground when you touchdown, and pouring on the throttle to keep going...getting to a nearly 180 degree hairpin turn downshifting, braking and everyting in sync as not to upset the balance of everything, having your thigh on the seat, trying to keep the bike on it's tires, sometimes pouring on the throttle enough just to break the rear tire loose and KNOW that you are getting the max out of the bike...AM I EXCITED??? YOu bet. I loved my GS450S, I like smaller bikes and road race tracks...not circles, ovals not just winding lefts, rights and straights, I love all theis mixed in with some serious elevation changes. I tried riding my Buddies GPz550 against my own 450S and I RAN away from the guys in my group...I tried a 650, and I couldn't keep up with my own 450...I just couldn't get used to the heavy feel of the 650 back then. SORRY, about going on....but as the RANTS&RAVES Specialist...I have my reputation to uphold...and the responsability, accountability....I can't wait to get my 250R rebuilt...he...hee...ha...haaaaaa! As soon as I do it will get posted in color. I'm not a drag racer...but it might be fun to see just what the bike does in the 1/8 and 1/4 mile...gas mileage will be a joke, as well as top end...If I'm not topped out in a 1/4 mile than my gearing will probably need to be adjusted somewhat...I plan on having a larger bike for my cross city riding and going on anythng more than a 50 mile round trip. Like I said, a 250R should be a Sport bike for everyone that rides a sport bike to have as a back up or just for fun...parts are cheaper and plentiful...and you can do almost anything that you want to it to make it a special bike...of some sort...
 
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