First, let me start off my saying that I am an avid firearms enthusiast, and have my HCP in the state of Tennessee. So, I am all about carrying a firearm for protection.

First of all, you will be breaking the law in most areas by carrying your firearm without a permit to do so. Secondly, even if you had your permit to carry your weapon, it's very likely that some states will not accept your permit from Oklahoma. If that happens to be the case during your trip, you will be breaking the law.

If you plan on camping in a park owned by a local, state or federal government, you will likely be breaking the law again. You are not allowed to carry firearms in most parks.

I would figure out my exact route (or as close as possible), I would then check all applicable laws along the intended route. Either way, without an HCP, you'll be breaking the law in most places.

Oh, and simply splitting up the firearm and magazine, that will almost not cut it most places. Not on a motorcycle anyway.

You also need to remember, you'll be crossing state lines, so if caught illegally carrying a firearm, it could very easily be considered a federal offense. And to top it off, if you do get busted, you could forget ever legally owning or carrying a firearm in the future.

I'm far from an expert, but I hope that helps in some small way.

 

Yeah, I just wasn't sure about all the laws. I know in Oklahoma you can carry a gun w/o any permit as long as you keep the gun and ammo inaccessible to you while driving. I knew having a loaded gun would definitely be illegal in most cases w/o a permit, but I didn't think it would be illegal to transport an unloaded gun...for goodness' sakes, you can check an unloaded gun on an airplane to fly places

 

I cary on most trips a fully loaded 45cal handgun. I just simply put it in the side pocket of my luggage. I don't think about it on the trip, I don't take it out to show off, but I know it's there if I need it. If I follow all other laws there should not be an issue, but I am braking the law.

 

Well, I honestly just wanted it for when I was camping overnight...I'm not too worried about the rest of the trip and I wasn't planning on camping in state parks or whatnot.

 

If you do get your permit before making your trip, it would be a good idea to check out this page.

It's a list of states that honor Oklahoma's CCL.

It's also important to note, each sate has their own set of laws pertaining to firearms laws. For example, some states only allow you to openly carry, some allow only concealed, and some, like Tennessee, you can carry it either way.

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation - Reciprocity

There are several other factors that should be looked into when planning for a trip while carrying a firearm, and it's always to do some research. There are countless firearms related forums with members from all over the country/world, so I would start asking questions there. I wouldn't suggest asking this exact question, because asking members how to break firearms laws will quickly get you booted from those sites.

Here's a few of the bigger ones that will likely give you the most and best answers.

XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!
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AR15.Com

 

I have nothing against handguns, I have several and am licensed. I've been camping and riding almost 40 years and never had life threatening situation or carried on trips. If a gun is needed maybe people should consider taking different routes rather than being in harms way.

 

A friend of mine who lives in Nevada has a gun permit that i think he actually recieved in Nevada but it is good in 4 or 5 states!! Arizona, New Mexico, Navada (of course) and I believe Utah. You have to be certified on each weapon you may carry and he attended a full day course tought by ex- LEO's it sounds like a sweet deal for the states your legal in anyway. Of course here in California it is illegal to defend your self even though Dianne Funkstain has a CCP permit... go figure.

 

Alright, looks like I just need to get the ball rolling with my CCP then since all but 1 of the states I'd planned on traveling through accept the OK CCP. I'll just have to avoid the "wonderful" state of Illinois

 

Yeah, I just wasn't sure about all the laws. I know in Oklahoma you can carry a gun w/o any permit as long as you keep the gun and ammo inaccessible to you while driving. I knew having a loaded gun would definitely be illegal in most cases w/o a permit, but I didn't think it would be illegal to transport an unloaded gun...for goodness' sakes, you can check an unloaded gun on an airplane to fly places

I know what your saying, but carrying a loaded magazine would be the problem. You'd likely be OK in most places if you carry the ammo seperate from the gun and magazine. Maybe carry the gun in a small lockable case in one bag, and the ammo in another bag. But again, many states have laws governing the transportation of firearms. In addition, many cities and localities have ordinances restricting the transportation of firearms. Travelers must be aware of these laws and comply with the legal requirements in each jurisdiction. There is no uniform state firearms transportation procedure.

Here's another link to check out.

Interstate Transportation of Firearms

 

I have nothing against handguns, I have several and am licensed. I've been camping and riding almost 40 years and never had life threatening situation or carried on trips. If a gun is needed maybe people should consider taking different routes rather than being in harms way.

While I certainly don't intend on putting myself in a dangerous situation, one can never predict when that might happen. One could camp for 40 years without incident and then have something happen. I hope I NEVER have to use a gun to defend myself, but I don't want to find myself unprepared if that situation does arise even if the chance of it is very low!

 

I have nothing against handguns, I have several and am licensed. I've been camping and riding almost 40 years and never had life threatening situation or carried on trips. If a gun is needed maybe people should consider taking different routes rather than being in harms way.

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Consider better camping areas. Never have I gone camping and feared for my life so much so I thought I needed to be carrying.

 

If a gun is needed maybe people should consider taking different routes rather than being in harms way.

With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more. Although you and I may have been fortunate enough never to need to use our firearms in self-defense, one can NEVER predict when and where you may encounter the need to fight for your life.

I don't know this fellas intended route, but I would imagine he doesn't intend on makig pitstops at every housing project between point-A and point-B. People have been, and will continue to be killed in the best towns all across the country. And as a truck driver, I've seen and heard about some horrible situations along the nicest of sections on our interstates and highways. You simply never know.

 

I don't know this fellas intended route, but I would imagine he doesn't intend on makig pitstops at every housing project between point-A and point-B. People have been, and will continue to be killed in the best towns all across the country. And as a truck driver, I've seen and heard about some horrible situations along the nicest of sections on our interstates and highways. You simply never know.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, my planned route does not go through necessarily dangerous areas, it's just that I would rather be prepared for the worst even if it's a .00001% chance of happening. I'm not fearful of my life and I do not intend to carry out of fear, rather out of preparedness. Like the boy scout motto "be prepared."

 

No offense, but I will never understand that level of paranoia.

 

I don't quite have my CCP yet, .....
I'm hoping ..... to keep it somewhat legal .....

You got good advice from TripleDigitRide. Somewhat legal is "illegal".

Don't even consider traveling armed without your concealed carry license and having checked the applicable state and federal laws. Many states will no doubt recognize your license once you obtain it but at the same time some states will not. There are still some states that will not issue a permit even to their own law abiding residents with perfectly clean records.

When security is an issue stay in areas that are less prone to crime. Keeping away from the cheapest and free spots and spending a bit more is often well worth the price for piece of mind, security, and the added features they offer.

Use your head when traveling and I doubt that you will ever have a security problem.

By the way you might really enjoy Gregory Frazier's book "Everything you need to know Motorcycle Touring". I've read it several times, enjoyed it each time, and it's still a favorite in my small but growing personal library.
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Be very careful ...

Handgunlaw.us

Click on the state your permit is issued through, and a .pdf file will popup with all the info you need - states that recognize your permit, those that do not (generally the Northeast from Joisey and the communist state of Maryland on up).

I'd also suggest getting the Utah Non-Resident permit over the Florida Non-Resident permit. You'll add at least 28 states to your Oklahoma permit.

A year or two ago, the Richmond newspaper published the ENTIRE concealed carry database on the notion that "your neighbor should know you have dangerous items in your house that kids shouldn't be around"...(insert BS here). The database was taken down a few days later when the uproar hit the fan, but the damage was already done. Nice to know those jacka$$es gave every criminal the address of where to steal a gun from, eh?

That won't happen with a Utah permit - the database is not public. Florida's is, however. Utah's permit also automatically adds any state that grants it's residents reciprocity.

Be very careful where you go with it, and hope you're not in a state like New Jersey or New York if you're in an accident and the cops inadvertently find it in your saddlebag while you're in the trauma bay.

 

Ok...read this whole thread and I have a question...point to make.

IF...you keep gun unloaded...it will NEVER do you any good. In fact having it around unloaded...in a dangerous situation can make things worse.

Any criminal that will attack you...will not give you time to go and grab the gun, then go and get the ammo, then load the gun, and then chamber the first round.

Once that gun is seperated from ammo...it is no longer a weapon...other than as a small club. You are no safer.

So, the question is, when you are camping will you have the loaded gun right beside you in the tent and on you when you are walking around your campsite? That is the only way you can use it to fight someone off...any other senario just causes more problems.

 

Get a canister of non-water based pepper spray and stay away from places where you need a gun.

 

Ok...read this whole thread and I have a question...point to make.

IF...you keep gun unloaded...it will NEVER do you any good. In fact having it around unloaded...in a dangerous situation can make things worse.

Any criminal that will attack you...will not give you time to go and grab the gun, then go and get the ammo, then load the gun, and then chamber the first round.

Once that gun is seperated from ammo...it is no longer a weapon...other than as a small club. You are no safer.

So, the question is, when you are camping will you have the loaded gun right beside you in the tent and on you when you are walking around your campsite? That is the only way you can use it to fight someone off...any other senario just causes more problems.

Absolutely, the original plan was to keep the gun unloaded while traveling, but have it loaded and available to me while I was in the tent. I certainly don't intend to break any laws and this is all still in the planning stages which is why I asked for some advice from people here who may have done the same sort of thing!

 

I have nothing against handguns, I have several and am licensed. I've been camping and riding almost 40 years and never had life threatening situation or carried on trips. If a gun is needed maybe people should consider taking different routes rather than being in harms way.

I have nothing against fire extinguishers. I have several, and have never needed one.


You can't always control where you "end up"... particularly if a mechanical problem takes you off route, if you are unfamiliar with a route and end up going through meth-lab central, or who you might encounter even on the interstate.

 

A friend of mine who lives in Nevada has a gun permit that i think he actually recieved in Nevada but it is good in 4 or 5 states!! Arizona, New Mexico, Navada (of course) and I believe Utah. You have to be certified on each weapon you may carry and he attended a full day course tought by ex- LEO's it sounds like a sweet deal for the states your legal in anyway. Of course here in California it is illegal to defend your self even though Dianne Funkstain has a CCP permit... go figure.

A non-resident Utah CCW is valid in something like 20 states and it's cheap.
There are actually classes here in California that set you up for a Utah non-resident at the same time you are attempting to qualify for the CA permit (which may be denied, depending on your county).

 

A non-resident Utah CCW is valid in something like 20 states and it's cheap.
There are actually classes here in California that set you up for a Utah non-resident at the same time you are attempting to qualify for the CA permit (which may be denied, depending on your county).

Unfortunately my destination state is Michigan which does not honor non-resident CCW's. I think I'll just have to pay for the more expensive Oklahoma CCW so I can stay legal. There's really no excuse for me to not have it at this point though, I've already taken the required class...just haven't gotten around to submitting the paperwork yet :-/

 

I know what your saying, but carrying a loaded magazine would be the problem. You'd likely be OK in most places if you carry the ammo seperate from the gun and magazine. Maybe carry the gun in a small lockable case in one bag, and the ammo in another bag. But again, many states have laws governing the transportation of firearms. In addition, many cities and localities have ordinances restricting the transportation of firearms. Travelers must be aware of these laws and comply with the legal requirements in each jurisdiction. There is no uniform state firearms transportation procedure.

Here's another link to check out.

Interstate Transportation of Firearms

Another problem is that Indian Reservations have their own set of laws. In Arizona, open-carry is legal, concealed with a permit. On the reservations northeast of Flagstaff, any form of carry is illegal regardless of your permit status.

 

Unfortunately my destination state is Michigan which does not honor non-resident CCW's. I think I'll just have to pay for the more expensive Oklahoma CCW so I can stay legal. There's really no excuse for me to not have it at this point though, I've already taken the required class...just haven't gotten around to submitting the paperwork yet :-/

Ya... always get your own state's permit if you can, but the Utah non-res is a great addition.

 

See, this is why I asked here...a wealth of good information for me to look into and research before I take my trip